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Aliens, the Next Fear-Based Meme?
Don't talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking ... THE aliens are out there and Earth had better watch out, at least according to Stephen Hawking. He has suggested that extraterrestrials are almost certain to exist — but that instead of seeking them out, humanity should be doing all it that can to avoid any contact. The suggestions come in a new documentary series in which Hawking, one of the world's leading scientists, will set out his latest thinking on some of the universe's greatest mysteries. Alien life, he will suggest, is almost certain to exist in many other parts of the universe: not just in planets, but perhaps in the centre of stars or even floating in interplanetary space. Hawking's logic on aliens is, for him, unusually simple. The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth is unlikely to be the only planet where life has evolved. – London Times Online
Dominant Social Theme: They are coming and we must be prepared. Maybe they're already here!
Free-Market Analysis: We mentioned in a previous article how the promotion of various themes in conjunction with a Western, Anglo-American power elite made even a normal discussion of an intergenerational elite difficult if not impossible. One was immediately sucked into "conspiracy theories." In discussing the promotion of "evil Jews" we mentioned two other dominant social themes: secret societies (the Illuminati) and space aliens.
To read the full DB article, click here: Vanunu Jailed by Evil Jews.
Web sites and individuals espousing the idea that the problems of the planet can be laid to rest entirely at the feet of Israel and Jews in general help bring the idea of a power elite itself into some disrepute – and make analytical conversation more difficult. Another dominant social theme is the Iluminati. This theme is promoted in numerous ways – books, movies and Internet sites – and mortally intermingles power elite strategies with secret societies. So intermingled has the theme become that sorting out one from another becomes almost impossible.
As regards space aliens, we saw the same sort of promotion at work. But what has brought us back to these manipulations and to aliens in particular is Stephen Hawking's statements that have set the world of the alternative Internet media to buzzing. An article making the rounds currently -- an offshoot of the Hawking's statements – comes from Henry Makow's famous alternative news website. (Makow is apparently the inventor of the famous Scruples board game.) The article, published in late May claimed that the elite had in mind creating an alien threat as a way of promoting one-world government. Here's an excerpt from the article, based on the testimony of one Carol Rosin:
Von Braun: Illuminati Plan For E.T. Deception ... Dr. Wernher von Braun, the head of the Nazi rocket program, was brought to America after the war because our government considered his knowledge and expertise too vital to fall into enemy hands. Dr. von Braun brought a wealth of information gleaned from other top Nazi scientists like his boss, SS General Hans Kammler. Von Braun was privy to work on anti gravity propulsion vehicles. With access to NASA's secret programs, von Braun apparently began to see the "big picture" regarding the true goals of America's space program and how the military- industrial complex was manipulating it according to a secret, hidden agenda.
Dr. Carol Rosin was an industry executive when she first met Dr. Wernher von Braun in February 1974. At this time, before his death in 1977, von Braun confided to Dr. Rosin NASA's hidden agenda. Inviting her into his office, Von Braun stunned Dr. Rosin by explaining that it was all leading to planetary control under an oppressive One World Government. According to Rosin, von Braun then gave her one supreme assignment: He said a secretive trans-national power, already in existence, would move to permanently take control of this planet thru a hoaxed alien invasion from outer space.
According to von Braun, space based weapons, later known as the "Star Wars" program, were to be promoted as a "shield" against the Russians. Then, as a defense against 'rogue' nations. Then, as protection against asteroids and meteors. Finally they would be presented as a safeguard against an extraterrestrial threat. According to von Braun, all of these rationales would be lies. These space based weapons would be useless against nuclear suitcase bombs available even in 1974, as well as chemical, viral, bacterial and biological terror weapons.
As a matter of fact, it turns out that Rosin may have a connection to the "Disclosure Project" which according to Wikipedia, "is an organization ... that alleges the existence of a US government cover-up of information relating to unidentified flying objects (UFOs). The Project has adopted Greer's contention that UFOs are spacecraft piloted by intelligent extraterrestrial life, and that the United States government is keeping this secret. Greer also uses the project to disseminate his beliefs that the government has concealed advanced energy technologies obtained from the extraterrestrials by suppressing and hiding them in top secret 'black projects' in order not to upset the global geo-political power and energy-sector financial status-quo and its oil industry 'special interests.' "
We can see from the above explanation (as well as feedback responses to Rosin's claims) that the idea of disclosing von Braun's "secret" instructions is one method of creating credibility that allows her then to promote her true agenda – which is to support in one way or another the "Disclosure Project" meme. Perhaps it all sounds unduly complicated. But as skilled power elite meme watchers we have little doubt that the "aliens are coming" or the "aliens are among us" is yet another fear-based promotion that the elite has cultivated over the years.
Sound crazy? Whoever would have thought that the world's major Western governments would have insisted on labeling carbon dioxide a pollutant in order to literally propose a tax on breathing (and thrown in cow farts besides)? Another point we would make regarding the seriousness of this meme and the money behind it is that one of the Rockefeller brothers set up a sizable bequest (as much as US$200 million we have read previously) to study UFOs back in the late 20th century. In fact, it was this bequest – and the think tank it set up – that helped kick-start the current space alien promotion, so far as we can tell.
In later life, Rockefeller became interested in UFOs. In 1993, along with his niece, Anne Bartley, the stepdaughter of Winthrop Rockefeller and the then-president of the Rockefeller Family Fund, he established the UFO Disclosure Initiative to the Clinton White House. They asked for all UFO information held by the government, including from the CIA and the US Air Force, to be declassified and released to the public. The first and most important test case where declassification had to apply, according to Rockefeller, was the Roswell UFO incident. In September 1994, the Air Force categorically denied the incident was UFO-related. Rockefeller briefed Clinton on the results of his initiative in 1995. Clinton did produce an Executive Order in late 1994 to declassify numerous documents in the National Archives, but this did not specifically refer to UFO-related files. (- Wikipedia)
At this point, we would put nothing past the power elite when it comes to fear-based promotions. The global warming promotion was amazingly audacious, and we have no illusion that the elite has ceased to flog it. While we haven't dealt with it specifically in this article, the "aliens-are-among us meme" has a strong "green" element to it, with a good deal of conversation about how "good" alien technology would offer the world "free" and "clean" energy, end war, promote peaceable relations among all races and nations, etc. etc.
Conclusion: We couldn't help but be struck by the analysis that Hawking put forth in his commentary about aliens and the dangers of contact. According to the Times, "He suggests that aliens might simply raid Earth for its resources and then move on." This so happens to be the plot-line of the famous Hollywood blockbuster movie Independence Day, when the US President himself leads a squadron of jet fighters into the sky to shoot down alien flying saucers on the way to a rousing victory over evil galactic predators. Stephen Hawking, at the end of a life both sad and triumphant, has given us yet another gift. Knowingly or not, he has seamlessly fused Hollywood hype with high-powered academic physics in support of yet another elite fear-based promotion. You can't make this stuff up.
Posted by En Jay Oh on 07/05/10 10:29 PM
Perhaps what you mean to say is,
"For mine own part, if I were as tedious as a king, I could find it in my heart to bestow it all upon you."
It IS difficult to write plainly.
Posted by AmanfromMars on 06/03/10 01:02 PM
Squirreling away that which we do not understand, will never allow for its public explanation, Daily Bell.
With regard to HyperRadioProActive IT and its Memes [: an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture] which is very much towards the Virtual Machine/Artificial Intelligence version/view of Man's State, with Pure Applied Thought delivering our Existentialist Being, albeit such a Process being practically unknown to All who would be uneducated in its Applications and Neuro Linguistic Programming, does this help explain what is a very deep, and maybe even alien, subject, or at least set one thinking about the Reality of our Artificial Worlds .......
A Colossal Fiction ...... Turing's Magical Mystery AIdDiscovery?
Posted Thursday 3rd June 2010 16:17 GMT
"Another fiction becoming reality?" ... Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 3rd June 2010 13:36 GMT
That got me thinking further, AC.
If there were no words printed, would reality be totally different, ..... ergo is reality scripted for thoughts to follow and create/reverse engineer what is in essence and physicality/actuality, Virtual Reality, ....... for take away everything artificial/man-made/machine built, and one is as naked as a JBird in a Natural Paradise ..... Perfumed Garden of Eden, and one can then build everything again with Beta Imaginanation Shared in Words.
For a Second Chance ..... Knowing what's Coming.
Click to view link
Tomorrow you will wake up to a new day/beginning ...... built upon the thoughts and actions of everyone today, but only a very few will have consciously directed the course of the Future Reality for that day, by virtue of their thoughts being acted upon widely to create major events.
Such is easily done with HyperRadioProActive Meme Control and IT Command of Media. ........ but quite obviously not easily done by All or Many or Any, who would dare to care and share and present it for Peer Pressure Review.
Posted by AmanfromMars on 06/03/10 01:36 AM
"You are blathering again. For a while you stopped." .... Daily Bell
If you really thought that, you wouldn't have omitted posting the last/next two paragraphs of that post which give it a greater contextual credence and dynamic viral vitality in political monetary fields in dire straits need of the admittedly strange and surreal help.
In defence of the irregular and unconventional, I would like to present .... Click to view link ..... and would add a Salvador Dali quote ..... "The only difference between a mad man and me, is that I am not mad" ...... and would also point out that in this day and age, whenever the placement of information and/or intelligence for global viewing is so easy, do carefully crafted packets of information which are seemingly arbitrarily subjectively chosen for exclusion/random censure and thus denied presence, tell a very powerful tale about how right and prescient they are, and that which has been freely shared but concealed is invariably a rock foundation upon which to build future thoughts.
However ..... one should not be so blinkered as to steadfastly believe that any such course as may have be intimated and revealed in such interactions is the only rocky outcrop for founding future builds, for it may very well be that involved established Establishment and Power Elite players at such levels are not well enough equipped and endowed to go further into fields in which the comfort of certainty to them is to be of their own making, rather than being supplied to them by default of artificial means and memes ..... Familial Dynastic Inheritance or bought with simply complex IOUs aka Monies.
Free Thinking apparently has an Attractive Market Price [amps], which if not Paid for Free Thinking Potential [voltage] to Free Thinkers, will cost Power Elite Fortunes?
And that is entirely consistent in another Parallel with what we know of as Power in Electricity ..... and in the equation, i*v=watts ... i/current in amps * v/potential energy in volts = power in watts?
:-) One doesn't get to see the word "blathering" used very often in proper context and I wonder whether it is the same as "blethering" which is of ancient northern celtic origin, with both of them being perfectly phormed for Future Use and/or Abuse, depending upon one's point of view, in Viking like Danegeld AIR*dDs and PostModern Virtually Advantageous Sorties.
Spookily enough, the aforementioned errant two paragraphs have even greater viral vitality, virtual virility, whenever the above information is also considered and added to the Intellectual Mix/Instant Message which upholds the values of power, courage, might and virility, which would not be unknown and alien to the Daily Bell. .......
"It is not as if they have any viable competition or opposition to stop them, is it, so what would possibly be their excuse for doing nothing radical and fundamental whenever traditional and safe is so very not cutting the mustard and delivering the goods and goodies?
With regard to the content posted by MetaCynic on 6/1/2010
7:06:25 PM, when ET is landed and present within IT and Media Communications as an HyperRadioProActive Meme, is their physical form cloaked in Human Intelligent Design."
Reply from The Daily Bell
HyperRadioProActive Meme ...
This is what we are talking about. What the heck does it mean? Why don't you try to define it instead of just throwing it out there as if everybody should understand it. You are worse then John Maynard Keynes, and that's saying a lot.
Posted by AmanfromMars on 06/02/10 10:35 AM
Thanks for the clarification, Douglas Rosenbrock. The dialogue here is most enlightening and enriching.
And parts a) and b) of .... "2. Political.
a) An omnipresent, virtually omnipotent international police force.
b) An established and recognized extraterrestrial menace.
c) Massive global environmental pollution.
d) Fictitious alternate enemies." .... may indeed be current with any omnipresent and virtually omnipotent force being probably an omniscient extraterrestrial presence rather than a menace to a universal police force and internetionally policed forces.
And you may like to build upon that notion, which is further expounded here ...... Click to view link
"The Rothschilds are not part of this "anglo-American" elite? LOL" .... Posted by Justin on 6/1/2010 10:20:34 PM
Thank God for that, for if the present mess is all is available from Power Elites, it would not bode for them. Are the Rothschilds then more Orientated to and more closely aligned with European ties/genes and can we expect killer Bildeberger Immaculate Lode Leadership shortly, to take over from the discredited Uncle Sam, Greed is Good, War is Better, Wall Street Spins a SubPrime Tale Model?
Reply from The Daily Bell
You are blathering again. For a while you stopped.
Posted by Justin on 06/01/10 10:20 PM
The Rothschilds are not part of this "anglo-American" elite? LOL
Reply from The Daily Bell
Well, how sophisticated of you. You've hit the proverbial nail on the head. The Rothschilds ... thanks for the insight!
Posted by MetaCynic on 06/01/10 07:06 PM
The problem that I see with an extraterrestrial invasion promotion is that since 1947 every imaginable authority and media outlet has belittled all claims of ET sightings and encounters. So how can the elite spin an about face in order to retain credibility in this matter?
When this challenge to credibility is deconstructed, the difficulties of spinning a convincing narrative appear to be quite formidable. For example, are we to be told that all earlier sightings were indeed false but that as of today these beings are real, they are here and they are angry? So all the earlier stories, photos and videos are hoaxes but the new ones, which appear to be the same, are authentic? Are people really going to believe that ETs have discovered us just now and that the authorities are gracious enough to share this news with us?
Will the battles against the almighty ET be going on only out of sight high above the earth? For this fright to be credible, huge buildings must be vaporized with powerful beam weapons and territory must be occupied by weird looking creatures in full view of terrified humans.
Another explanation could be that ET was here all along, maybe for even thousands of years and that most of the purported sightings and encounters were authentic, but governments everywhere bottled up the evidence in order to avoid panic. But that begs the question why has ET turned hostile just now? If he was amongst us throughout recorded history, perhaps even being the inspiration in all religions for stories about powerful flying gods, why didn't he blow away humanity a long time ago? What have we done to deserve genocide now?
In the phony war on terror we see "terrorists" in orange jumpsuits safely chained behind barbed wire. Are we going to get to gawk at videos of ET prisoners being plucked, poked and biopsied by curious scientists? How about a tour of downed ET craft?
Although in the long run none are viable, it seems to me that the invading ET promotion is simply way too complex for the elite to pull off convincingly without looking silly. Yes, most people will be frightened, but scores of millions, myself included, would be intensely curious, inundating the authorities with an avalanche of questions. The internet would burn up 24/7 with speculation exponentially more intense than that following 9/11. After all a visit by ET, however dangerous, would undoubtedly be the most significant event in human history!
My take on this is that if ET is real, the American government would never voluntarily disclose that fact. If he exists, he would probably already be here and not arrive conveniently tomorrow. And if he was hostile, we humans would have found out about that a long time ago. Rogue government elements might leak things out once in a while, but those in control would keep whatever technology is acquired for their military and favorite private contractors. The only way for the rest of us to find out about ET en masse would be if he decided to make a spectacular disclosure.
Reply from The Daily Bell
We tend to agree with you. We still get the feeling the meme is operational. If nothing else it keeps people distracted, and we have noticed the elite never let their promotions die entirely, or very rarely.
Posted by Douglas Rosenbrock on 06/01/10 03:49 PM
I didn't think so, but I thought AManFromMars misunderstood the context.
Posted by Douglas Rosenbrock on 06/01/10 02:09 PM
To AmanfromMars and Daily Bell. A little clarification is in order I beleive.
Everything in my original post, from the paragraph titled "The Nature of War" on, is an excerpt from the Report From Iron Mountain.
Of course worrying about instability caused by "peace breaking out" is lunacy. The point of the post was to demonstrate the fact that someone for whatever reason had proposed as far back as 1963 that possible "Substitutes for the Function of War" was "b) An established and recognized extraterrestrial menace. c) Massive global environmental pollution. d) Fictitious alternate enemies."
We already have c) and d). So it's not a stretch to imagine that with the global warming scheme falling apart, we might be witnessing an alien invasion any day now.
That was my point.
Reply from The Daily Bell
Did we disagree?
Posted by Weeble on 06/01/10 07:49 AM
Anybody who believes in aliens must have their heads orbiting planet Epsilon SM. Everybody who can do it uses a magnetic craft utilizing a tear in the time / space continuum, where they come back through a wormhole at warp speed, gently descend in their craft, and wander around among us operating on impulse power (just like us). They open their mouths here and there and voice their opinion, but it falls on deaf ears. And that's the way it is supposed to be.
Where the hell are my keys? Where's my ship? Oh no, the Aspertame is in everything now!
Posted by F. Beard on 06/01/10 12:12 AM
"Rare Earth" is a book by two non-theists that postulates that Earth may be the ONLY place in the universe with complex life:
Click to view link
While listening to scientists on TV, I sometimes hear them say that the discovery of alien life would have profound philosophical consequences. Of course that sword cuts both ways; the profound silence from SETI despite decades of listening must surely be disconcerting to some.
Posted by Richard Ambler on 05/31/10 11:46 PM
Just considering the distances that would be involved for aliens to travel to earth makes it very unlikely for a true alien invasion: it takes four years for light to reach us from the nearest star after our sun. If I saw with my own eyes a flying saucer filled with little green men attacking a city with laser beams I would suspect (after I had ruled out the possibility of hallucination, of course) human beings and machines or biological experiments long, long before I'd suspect that the little green men have spent the last several thousands to billions of years in near light-speed flight just to strip the earth of some resources to take back home.
And if the aliens are truly great beyond our understanding to warp space so as to skip around the speed of light constraint, or long lived enough for a few million years in a cramped saucer seem trivial then we, being the insects we would be to them, would have no chance of thwarting them: either way, nothing useful can come from fearing true alien invasion.
As for a hoax, well, judging from the way some people reacted to the famous 1938 radio broadcast of War of the Worlds, I suspect that it could be pulled off quite convincingly, especially if the attacks were accompanied with dumps of LSD, say. Heck - I'd like to be in charge of that hoax!
Posted by William3 on 05/31/10 11:27 PM
I haven't read the latest Hawking pronouncement, but what the Times reports seems out of character for Hawking. He has always maintained a high probability there are other sentient beings in the universe, but I don't recall him stating that aliens would be evil and want to harm us.
Other alien believers, particularly Stanton Friedman, who has written much on Roswell, maintain aliens who have evolved to the point of being able to travel to the Earth would never come with bad intent.
The Elite, it would seem, would clearly want aliens to be seen as a threat to justify a world political/ military body to deal with them.
Posted by Weeble on 05/31/10 10:41 PM
I never thought I would touch on this subject in such a website.
With respect to DB thinking the universe is based on electricity, you may or may not be aware of a fellow from the 40s and 50s in Florida, named Ed Leedskalnin.
Ed built a Coral Castle in Homestead, using very heavy coral, which he carved out of his property and lifted upright, stacked, balanced etc. He did this on his own, and no-one knows how he did it.
His writings are on the net and a good primer is Click to view link. Jeremy Stride (site owner) worked out the math and realized there was a lot of Fibonacci / Phi / prime numbers / prime quadruplets / prime sums in the generator Ed built. The meme that was created was that this generator was built later in his life after the castle was built.
Ed based his thoughts on everyone getting it wrong about electricity. He called them North and South magnets. He could see magnets streaming down on a sunny day (me too, my whole life).
I did some research and found that DNA is polarized; a positive helix swirling around a negative helix. This statement is meaningless to many, and that is good.
I believe all life on earth is given to us from the Sun and that the positive helix cannot see the negative helix, and the 2 can never meet, otherwise the power is gone. If they see you, they will come.
Posted by F. Beard on 05/31/10 09:20 PM
"But, yes, unlike the gravity bound universe (which is probably electrical) we think we believe in evolution of some sort. We are always willing to be enlightened." DB
I've followed general science for years; scientists are STILL scrambling to figure out how life might have originated by chance alone:
Click to view link
The current thinking on life's origin is that just about any place with liquid water and the necessary elements would develop life. Fine, let's test that hypothesis by sending probes to every planet and satellite in the Solar System that might have water and see. I would bet that any life that might be found will be discovered to be related to Earth life, carried there from the Earth via asteroid impacts or perhaps vice versa.
Reply from The Daily Bell
We're certainly not willing to speculate how life evolved. We can hardly balance our collective checkbooks. But the process of evolution seems reasonable - or some sort of similar process anyway - unless all those old bones are faked, like Piltdown man ...
Maybe evolution is that rare meme that doesn't need to be manipulated (at least not overtly or radically) because it provides some sort of useful "propaganda" as is. Just a thought.
Posted by Weeble on 05/31/10 09:14 PM
The "witch" meme caused a lot of widows to lose their hard earned homesteads.
The recycling "meme" caused us all to feel guilty about consuming and separate our garbage before we throw it away.
The "global warm---------
These things are just ripe turds thrown against the wall. Some stick, others slide down and leave a mark on the way down. They are just checking our intelligence level. I think they dream these things up in Area 51.
Do you walk under ladders? Careful where you step.
Posted by James Jaeger on 05/31/10 07:01 PM
For the past 12 years we have discussed this subject exhaustively at Ray Kurtzweil's artificial intelligence site. Our arguments are by far the most authoritative analysis on the subject of superintelligent technological civilizations (what the lumpin public calls "aliens") so if one wants to understand the pros and cons of contact, they need to visit the MIND-X, not listen to an astrophysicist or watch TV. Click to view link
Reply from The Daily Bell
Thanks for checking in, Mr. Jaeger. Surely your link will be welcomed by many.
Click to view link
Posted by HopefullyInvolved on 05/31/10 06:09 PM
Don't want to rain on anyone's party, BUT:
About 35 years ago, a large division of IBM held an annual luncheon for it's 500 employees. Since the division had its headquarters near Stanford University, a leading Stanford physicist - astro, that is - was invited to give the talk. His subject: how mankind was very soon to make contact with ETs.
BTW: Seems that Hawking kind of didn't know about the Background Radiation(BR) *everywhere* present in this universe of ours. This BR would and does blot out our insignificant radio signals. Have you tried to watch an analog TV program that is being transmitted from more than 35 miles away. Lots and lots of BR "snow." Now just imagine how BR "kills" such weak signals from getting into deep space. Prof. Hawking explain this, please.
Back to the point: About 37 years ago astrophysics discovered the "water-hole." Seems that within the spectrum of the H2O - water - molecule BR was found not to exist, i.e., a perfect channel - "hole" in the BR - to receive and/or transmit a signal that BR had no affect upon. This physicist was so enthused - now we would find the signals of ET since ET - being so much smarter - would also "know" to transmit in the "water-hole." So where is ET after 35 years? Until I see one....
Just because some physicist with a big name (Einstein, Hawking, etc.) says something astounding doesn't make it true. There are physicists today who doubt even Einstein's findings. This universe is truly an amazing thing: try to imagine in your mind the "truths" of quantum mechanics such as "entanglement of light" which even Einstein couldn't grapple with. Check it out. Google it!
Also, isn't it possible that the programs of the elite and their "monies" reach even into our leading learning centers and distort true science - try researching the latest scientific findings concerning "EVOLUTION" and this religions hold on science. Why all the attacks upon intelligent design? ARE you prejudiced? Afraid to look that you might find out? Could it be that the elite have another meme called evolution?
Thanks DR for your great ideas and platform.
Reply from The Daily Bell
Science especially in the past 100 years has been woefully distorted. But, yes, unlike the gravity bound universe (which is probably electrical) we think we believe in evolution of some sort. We are always willing to be enlightened.
Posted by Duane Bass on 05/31/10 05:52 PM
If and when the Elite use this meme, they had better have some awesome proof. . . Otherwise it would be an unwise assertion.
I find it to be ridiculous to even belay such an idea, to smart, and informed people, of the cyberworld!
Posted by Bilejones on 05/31/10 04:27 PM
Hawking's basic point, is correct. To assume that aliens are harmless is foolish.
If the Native Americans could have a do-over, don't you think
a. They certainly would not want to be "Discovered".
b. They'd slaughter every European they found, on sight.
Posted by AmanfromMars on 05/31/10 02:08 PM
"i know the above comment from the writer "amanfrommars", to this reader, attempts to discredit the bell's comments in reference to that family and their connections to hidden agendas/ideologies that have influenced many leaders of this "supposed" republic and other countries therefore putting a chokehold on all of us (u.s.) and more importantly, the compromised state this blessed planet is presently experiencing " ..... Posted by Bmayler on 5/31/2010 12:09:01 PM
Actually, Bmayler, the comments are most surely more definitely in support of their efforts to move the debate on into practical constructive engagement at a much more advanced and readily virtually available HyperRadioProActive level ..... rather that pussy footing around at the fringes.
After all, it cannot be denied that anything is possible with the support of their considerable resources and personal contacts. I must apologise for the discombobulation and that information bit lost in translation/semantic interpretation.
However, as you can doubtless imagine, it is extremely sensitive and does require a delicate handling given the significant implications of an alternate intelligence formation in the human midsts, which would prove the present considered elite defaults to be more than just a little primitive and retarded/confined.