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Thursday, June 24, 2010 – by Staff Report

David Petraeus

The change in command, Obama made clear Wednesday, is a change in personnel, not in a policy that's hampered by, among other things, the absence of a political strategy, rising U.S. casualties, growing ethnic tensions, endemic political corruption, the administration's July 2011 deadline for beginning a troop withdrawal and a stalled offensive in the country's second-largest city. ... However, whatever comity General Petraeus (left) brings – with his stature as the counterinsurgency general who saved the war in Iraq and his political savvy – is likely to be tested by disagreements over policy and personnel, some of which McChrystal and his aides vented about in their exit interview with Rolling Stone magazine. As McClatchy reported earlier this month, a number of U.S. and allied military, intelligence and diplomatic officials have been warning for months that the American strategy in Afghanistan is failing and complaining that no one at a high level in the Obama administration wants to hear their discouraging words. – Yahoo

Dominant Social Theme: Petraeus to the rescue.

Free-Market Analysis: Will it be OK now that McChrystal has been replaced by Petraeus? Will the war be won by the determined Anglo-Saxon axis? We're not sure. But we are aware of course, that the effort is not only determined, it is one of great sophistication as well. We know this because we are told over and over that the CIA runs both sides of the war – helping harvest poppy crops (along with Marines) in order to provide funding as necessary.

Yes, this is increasingly reported with requisite eagerness and cynicism by both the mainstream and alternative media. True or not, some reporters simply cannot fathom the idea that the US military-industrial complex, and the Anglo-American axis generally, is not in control of a given situation. The US always wins, of course, except when it chooses to lose.

It makes sense in a strange way. It is a dominant social theme – one of overweaning control. The "Anglo-American-Zionist" power trilogy is in control of all, you see. There can be no recovery from this state of affairs, and no real way out. Beloved, especially, by numerous "alternative news" websites the mysterious "Illuminati" makes its appearance and is presented as an entity in charge of everything. There is nothing anyone can do to change the West's depressive and authoritarian course. If the government doesn't get you, the secret society will.

It is perhaps a meme intended to sap one of the will to take human action. In fact, many of these web sites are in our estimation controlled at least in part by Anglo-American intel, which has a vested interest in commingling fact with fiction, flying saucers with proper Austrian economics, alien invasions with legitimate government coverups.

The Afghan war is an example of such confusing messages. Over and over now, we read that the real reasons for the war in Afghanistan have to do with drugs, oil and exhausting the Western middle class with another failed war. The most cynical of articles therefore seem to imply that the implacable West could have its way with Afghanistan at a moment's notice, and that the only reason the opposition hasn't collapsed is because the West (there's the CIA, again) is determined to prop it up.

We find such notions to be questionable, even patronizing. We've watched the CIA in action and while they are probably a most competent and malevolent enterprise, we're not sure we would ascribe the total control to them that others seem to. Sure, they may be neck deep in drugs and "black ops." But every time we examine the war we come to the same conclusions: There is significant opposition to the Afghan Anglo-American invasion. It is real. It exists. It is being generated by one of the oldest tribes in the world – The Pashtuns, some 40 million strong, straddling the Afghanistan/Pakistan border.

The tribe has been there, one way or another for something like 5,000 years, in some retellings and its history, and the mountains supporting the tribe, are littered with old monuments that show Hindu and Buddhist religious influences long before the current Muslim faith took hold. It is the terrain that gives rise to the ability of the Pashtuns to resist outside aggression. Not a warlike people, necessarily, they are obviously determined resistors.

Here is a little poem written by the Pashtun chronicler Ghani Khan:

The great potmaker of fate was sitting in heaven.
This great potter of fate was making a donkey,
when the order came to make a Khan [Pashtun].
So the potter cut off its tail and sculpted its ears,
on its forehead he put a spot of temper
and in the donkeys brain he put the disease
of being ahead of everyone, being a leader, and
then he put a beautiful turban on his head and
shooed him towards the world.

Ghani Khan, despite poetry that doesn't translate well, is actually a great Pashtun writer, and someone who created a compelling portrait of a tribal society unlike almost any other. And in fact if one could create a society guaranteed to antagonize the Anglo-American elite, this would be the one. Elements of Pashtun society did not only prove irritating to European society, they were repugnant enough for the British to launch some 50-plus invasions of the Pashtuns between 1850 and 1900, all of which were repelled.

Here is Khan's description of a young Pashtun warrior:

Let us go to his valley in Dir. There he is – walking towards us, of medium height and sensitive build. He has long locks, neatly oiled and combed, wrapped in a red silk, kerchief, which is twisted round the head like the crown of I Caesar. He wears a flower in his hair and collyrium in his eye. His lips are dyed red with walnut bark. He carries his sitar in his hand and his rifle at his shoulder. You would think he is very effeminate until you looked at his eyes. They are clear, manly and bold. They do not know fear, and won't live long enough to know death. He pays the most lavish price for these made up eyes and painted lips. This son of the bravest tribe of the Pathans never takes cover in a fight and always laughs and sings when he is frightened. He will soon die fighting, a man as brave and strong and hand some as he, for he knows only how to love and laugh and fight and nothing else. He is taught nothing else.

And what of Pashtun culture? Here's Khan again:

In the tribal area where nearly four million people live without law courts, policemen, judges and hangmen, you seldom hear of adultery or murder. Elopements are rare. For the risk is great and the price heavy for rare lips and beautiful eyes. If the culprits get married, the hunt is slackened; the boy is made to pay damages in the form of giving away two or three girls to the family from which he stole one. But he won't live long if he deceives her or deserts her. The whole tribe of the girl will hunt him down and his own will refuse to protect him. Custom does not allow protection to the breakers of custom. He stands alone and must pay the price. Even his friends will avoid the funeral. It is hard and brutal, but it works. After all you cannot use a dog leash to tame a wolf. ...

The Pathan has thousands of customs – for death, birth, marriage, love, hate and war. To try to count them or even to attempt a very sketchy portrait of their purpose and function is impossible. They are neither good nor bad, for they depend on time, place and circumstance. But this can be said about all of them, that they are an attempt to hold and preserve a standard of value and way of life that has given the world a great fighter and a poor soldier. For many of the customs of the Pathans are older than their Greek soldier-fathers.

Obviously, this is a variant of common law – of the kind that the Bell has discussed on numerous occasions. Before justice was rationalized in the West by juries, by supreme courts, by judges, defence attorneys and state prosecutors, by endless rules, regulations and the requisite tools and strategies for enforcement thereof – tazers, beat-downs, break-ins and mass imprisonment – there was cultural justice, mostly familial and codified by social customs and traditions. There was little crime because there were few criminals. People took care of their own – and the culture repelled a criminal element because those within society were well known to each other.

Were such tribal societies repressive, violent on occasion and certainly rural/agrarian? Probably so. But one asks is the current Western models, with their endless ruination and consolidations, scientific superstitions and ongoing regulatory, monetary and fiscal repression are so much better. (Or it they are, have they not lost nearly as much as they have gained?) Certainly the Anglo-American axis has institutionally abhorred the Pashtuns for at least two centuries. Afghanistan, in Western retellings, is a sink of impoverishment, superstition and ignorant violence.

Conclusion: Now that General Petraeus has taken charge of the war effort, perhaps the campaigns will go better for the West. Perhaps Petraeus and the Marines and NATO generally will win the battle for the hearts and minds of the Pashtuns. We think this is a long chance, since Pashtun hearts and minds go back 5,000 years, but, hey, what do we know? And perhaps, in fact, the war is merely a drawn-out facade run by the CIA with all-important drug money. And maybe it's not about finally drawing the Pashtun era to a close (something the British have been after for 200 years) but about oil pipelines and mineral wealth. Nonetheless, empires have foundered in Afghanistan in the past, and perhaps the war is not a foregone conclusion after all. Even the CIA should know that.




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  Posted by Robert on 06/27/10 08:58 PM

I would be interested in an opinion on Mike Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon". While I feel his conclusions on Peak Oil Theory are flawed, and perhaps he unwittingly was lead to this conclusion, he does describe and connect a lot of the players that seem to have a bit of Mena, AR in their periphery.

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Here at the Bell, we modestly decline to believe in Peak Oil.

  Posted by John In Basel on 06/26/10 04:52 AM

Anglo-Saxon axis???

I'm of Cornish origin and as such NOT Anglo-Saxon. The Anglo-Saxons are the people who invaded and settled Britain in what is now called England.
I think the term you are looking for is "Anglo-American". :-)

  Posted by Steve Lu on 06/25/10 04:30 PM

@ Clayton,

"we kicked there ass"

Are you people serious you got buried by an old man and some woman and children which is what will happen in afganistan just bugger off and fix your own f---ed up "democracy".

  Posted by Weeble on 06/25/10 02:11 PM

Hmm, I think I now understand the source of your SF angst. You were reading about commies stealing your women, weren't you? See this link Click to view link

  Posted by Weeble on 06/25/10 10:47 AM

"He has no redeeming qualities but you bought every book?"

I had to go to the restaurant at the end of the universe in order to critique the quality of the food.

  Posted by Weeble on 06/25/10 07:48 AM

Thank you Zenbillionaire. I read both of those too! I wish I had "a power station" of an SF library at my fingertips, so I too, could properly refute the DB SF socialismagorical negatoididity. I have to rely on 30 to 40 year memory glands.

It is pretty obvious that any big business is working the agenda of the Power Elite. We all have to work within the system. We all have to earn and spend fiat money, buy fiat homes, live and breathe the fiat fumes. But if you want to write stories, and Analog is accepting submissions,

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then it is easy to do, if you are so inclined (or declined). But when you begin writing your first words, they cannot be anything other than an extension of your present socialist condition, extrapolated to a desired future. If your present mind is not aware of the socialism bred into you, then it will not be a core issue in your writings on the future.

The mid 50s and 60s was, in my view, the beginning of the SF hey day, and was maybe a little contrived, but it really left orbit in the 70s and 80s, then got lost in space in the 90s, and 00s.

How do you contain water, the universal solvent? Not by refuting socialism. You write and read to get away from that, as best you can.

  Posted by Bill Ross on 06/25/10 07:21 AM

@DB

The topic of how definitions and organizations are mixed and muddied is a direct attack on clarity and "calling A, A", which in turn is a direct attack on intelligent thought and like associating with like.

eg:

Hard science campuses being mixed with "liberal arts studies" and MANDITORY exposure to "liberal thought" to get for example, an engineering degree. There is a low level philosophical war and mutual contempt going on at our campuses between the "objective" and "creative", to this day, as my daughter (engineering student) has experienced, as I did.

Anarchy (no rules) being equated with liberty (everything OK, except initiating aggression, force, fraud or causing harm in general).

Smokers and non-smokers CANNOT freely associate in their OWN private establishments, all must be non-smoking. This has greatly harmed the hospitality industry in Canada.

Need I go on regarding the profound harmful effects of lack of clarity in definitions and forcing disparate groups (and ideas) to associate together (rather than let each face the consequences of their actions, learn and evolve)? The problem with learning and evolving (from elite perspective) is that we will converge to excellence and truth which is incompatible with "rule by divide and conquer".

This may be a topic worthy of DB's scrutiny.

And yes, cannot resist AGAIN reminding everybody what Darwin and Evolution PROVES regarding these matters:

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From my point of view, far too many people have lost the anchor of reality and BELIEVE they are floating, unencumbered by anything REAL, such as the law of gravity. This is patently FALSE and, as events are proving, we are collectively crashing to earth.

This is why I am so pedantic on these matters, to the point that, I am sure that the more intelligent Bell readers are perhaps finding me tiresome. My arguments are targeted at the unconvinced, since those who are convinced need no persuasion.

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We are sure you have convinced some.

  Posted by Zenbillionaire on 06/25/10 03:19 AM

"Though there were probably millions of science fiction books published in the mid-20th century, not ONE of them that we know of predicted the Internet."

??

Brunner, John "Shockwave Rider", 1976
Gibson, William "Neuromancer", 1984

There are more.

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We speaking about the 50s and early 60s - sorry, we should have been clearer.

  Posted by Weeble on 06/25/10 12:18 AM

You wanted to know my internet opinion yesterday, well here's my "life" opinion today!

We all grow up in a socialist world, because the owners want the irritating workers to join the union so they only have to speak to the office managers, the government.

You can live your whole life in the union, but there is nothing, absolutely nothing better than having been in the union, then you get out of it. If you were never in the union in the first place, then you only have an objective opinion on what it was like (nothing like being there). If you get a promotion to the office, you could get fired, or worse. The best way to get out is to smile and say, I'm with you, brother, and then wink; and blog on The Daily Bell with your real feelings. When people pass you on the street, they have no idea!

You can't touch me I'm part of the union... – Strawbs

  Posted by Weeble on 06/25/10 12:00 AM

I think you did not get my point. If you are pickled in vinegar your whole life, then you writings will inevitably have onion breath. If you go through your whole life without realizing this, then only the self aware minty fresh breath people know they should not breath in your fumes.

In my humble opinion, an SF writer cannot write "socialism to order" short stories. Maybe something like "The Melting Pot" from way back would have been easy to promote a theme, but SF was as disparate as weeds in the forest. My mind was opened not socialistically directed by my SF reading days.

With respect to Douglas Adams, thumbs down to that cr*pola. His garbage was a complete rip-off with absolutely no redeeming qualities in it whatsoever, and I cannot understand why you would have his quotes immortalized on your site. I bought every book. I did not know he was dead. Too bad, he was a nice guy.

I know I am getting old, but I am not Wheebling yet!

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He has no redeeming qualities but you bought every book?

  Posted by Weeble on 06/24/10 11:28 PM

Well, well, a common SF thread! I have often wondered about socialism being bred into all of us from birth, but shaken off at different points and times in your life, or never, or you think you have, but you are deluding yourself.

I do not think any of the SF writers I read were purposely trying to brainwash me for "the man". We are all mired in socialism, and it exudes from every pore in one's body. All each author ever wanted and still wants to do, is write a story with a twist, and a good plot; something clever.

One writer attempted to point a satellite dish out of the back of a Datsun in New Mexico when he obviously didn't know exactly where to point it, and that the Datsun is now a Nissan, but he can dream of the future. If he had only picked a Honda and a turbo stick...

Another (Kilgore Trout) wanted to explore Venus on the Halfshell, but he did not speak of universal healthcare in his book, although his publisher probably had a plan. All I remember is that smoking was not a good idea, due to the methane based life forms. Maybe he knew Kurt was trying to smoke himself to death, and wanted him to stop. Bloody socialist Farmer type.

Anyway, to make a long story much shorter, if you are looking for socialism, you need not look very far, as the road to serfdom is lined with cushy beds and grapes hanging from the vines above, ready for the picking.

Poo-poohing SF due to the socialism weaved into the fabric of the story is like saying, look, he speaks English, they are socialists, yuk, I wasted my life reading that socialist s***. No, my friends, we are all science fiction writers to the people that are still on the other side.

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No, Wheeble, the big New York and British publishing houses STILL, even today, have a distinct socialist bias. They are all owned, ultimately, by mega-corporations that are part of the power-elite nexus and the bias, at the top, in our humble opinion, is a socialist one for various, obvious reasons. The golden era of mid 20th century science fiction was indeed a "leveling" affair and, in the largest, sense, no accident.

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Some quotes from Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)

English humorist & science fiction novelist

He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which.

He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife.

Humans are not proud of their ancestors, and rarely invite them round to dinner.

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.

In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

It is no coincidence that in no known language does the phrase 'As pretty as an Airport' appear.

Life... is like a grapefruit. It's orange and squishy, and has a few pips in it, and some folks have half a one for breakfast.

The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't.

There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.

  Posted by Techguy on 06/24/10 06:59 PM

@ db

Astute observation regarding SF authors and books. I too read many, many SF books, as a teenager, only to realize later that almost without exception all were either socialist, humanist, or fascist.

Good news is that I can now spot those themes in books (SF or otherwise) miles off.

Oh, and spot on in regards to the all powerful conspiracy theories.

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Thanks. Not only was all the SF state-oriented, so were the many classical literature lists, featuring Dickens, Hemingway, Rousseau,, Descartes (Age of Reason) etc.

One could end up perfectly literate and perfectly "socialized."

  Posted by Bill Ross on 06/24/10 05:48 PM

@DB

"not ONE of them that we know of predicted the Internet..."

"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" (Classic revolution "how to", Heinlein) came close. All pervasive networked computer, co-opted by revolutionaries...

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OK ... Was 1967 ... past the Golden Era of 50s early 60s?

  Posted by Benjamin on 06/24/10 03:34 PM

Reply from the Daily Bell:

"What could they say after a nuclear weapon went off?"

Yikes. I wish you hadn't said that because that question changes the field of possibilities.

Suppose the MIC say terrorists did it first? They wouldn't have to carpet bomb, but maybe a "retaliation" or few would bring Afghanistan in line (for a time, anyway), without the world gasping in horror and disgust over what was done.

Not entirely impossible for them to get away with, but hopefully the MIC won't become so desperate to try such a "9/11 on steroids".

  Posted by Clayton on 06/24/10 02:05 PM

Ah, Mena once again.

The book was titled, "Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA," by Terry Reed and John Cummings. Very poorly written, but filled with all the names and faces of the corruption festering in the middle of America during the late 1980's and the early 90's.

I pulled it down from the shelf and had to remark on how somethings remain the same. It also made me wonder what happened to all these folks who were involved. Oliver North is on FOX TV. Clinton is a wealthy man. Bush is one of the ruling elite, whose other son Jeb is likely to be the next contender. Then there are the numerous underlings, whose fates are murkier. The whistle blowers seem to have vanished.

Chris Rudy, the author of "The Strange Death of Vincent Foster," found common cause with Michael Savage. Michael's family runs the high energy beverage business, Rock Star, out of a building next to my office. I used to run into him at dinner in Sausalito frequently, but I think he has moved on. They both found protection under the wings of the neo-Cons. Chris founded Newsmax and is now a part of the establishment he railed against previously. On the occasions I had to talk with him back in the 90's, he was extremely standoffish and paranoid. Made me wonder, who is this guy really?

A look at the diagram of the flow of funds in the center of Compromised tells it all. I guess someday we will get to muse over one from Afghanistan.

  Posted by Weeble on 06/24/10 01:59 PM

Bill, what a memory you have! Orson Scott Card had other great stories from what I remember. I just wish I had kept the magazines (as well as my '64 Falcon). I will Google and find them. Seems like used bookstores are selling them; nothing online at first glance.

I agree with everything you said. The premise of war is where I draw the line. I hope the wars stop soon. Poor communication skills are again found to be the source of conflict. Maybe the Power Elite should read "In Search Of Excellence", so they stop this madness.

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  Posted by Bill Ross on 06/24/10 01:31 PM

@Weeble

That was the plot of Ender's Game (Orson Scott Card), highly recommended, a takeoff:

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As to reality emulating fiction, there are many remote UAV pilots in Florida, completely morally (by not intellectually) oblivious to the FACT that they are blowing up REAL people and collateral damage is NOT an issue.

It is not hard to sympathize with those who think that fighting without taking a REAL risk, such as dropping bombs on populations from a position of air superiority is COWARDICE.

There is much objective research in support of the FACT that the majority (of sane) human beings just want to "live and let live" and, require a lot of conditioning and environmental control before they will actually kill. Then, they come back to "normal" society as completely shattered human beings, many incapable of adapting to civilian life.

  Posted by Weeble on 06/24/10 01:14 PM

@ Bill:

You must remember Analog Magazine, then. That was my favorite SF source. I have a find memory of the story about how the military was recruiting teenagers that were into video games (like pong, I guess at the time). At the end of the story, the author revealed these kids were actually directing troops, and the reality of it would have clouded their judgment; very creepy.

I never made that intersting connection between Science Fantasy and Science Fiction. Fantasy was for the people who allowed facts to be bent. Not for me, though. A fault would resonate at my natural frequency and destroy any semblance of a story. Almost all Analog stories made it through my filter.

  Posted by Beverlee on 06/24/10 01:11 PM

Aside: early '90's flying into Mena, AR, is quite startling. Mena is a small town in the middle of vast forests of valuable trees (Weyerhauser and others have investments in them thar' hills). 'Little created by capitalism for as far as the eye can see. Out of nowhere appears a huge runway ... Huge ... with several large hangars – at least one world class. A jumbo jet sits on the apron. Northwest Airlines ostensibly houses a maintenance operation there after any prior activities had become notorious.

Standing in front of a stone fireplace in the dust-covered FBO waiting for a car, someone might have said, "Now I remember why I know of this place ... when I was a federal prosecutor in Miami in the '80's, this is where the planes would land after fueling in Cuba and over-flying Miami." Then the few locals in the back would have disappeared out the door.

  Posted by Bill Ross on 06/24/10 01:00 PM

@ DB:

"vested interest in commingling fact with fiction, flying saucers with proper Austrian economics, alien invasions with legitimate government coverups."

Yes, "they" love to mess up clarity by mixing up (grouping) disparate and unrelated elements and calling them the same thing. Government conspiracist? Aha, you must believe in aliens. Any thing you may possibly have to say: DISMISSED

The first time I noticed this was, as a teenager enthralled by hard core science fiction (scientifically plausible futures, extrapolated from present trends / possibilities), some of which have actually come true. Then, the genre was redefined as fantasy / science fiction. Magic, wizards, witches, impossible fiction was equated with science fiction. I never went to conventions, but the NEW mixture of hard science / realist types with mystical dreamers (idiots) must have been interesting, to be kind.

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Interesting! One of us, we won't say who, read thousands of science fiction books as a child (from the 50s) and by university was a hard-core socialist. It took years to discover in hindsight that 90 percent of the science fiction published in America in the paperback Golden Era was socialist in content and even fascist (Starship Troopers).

Also, though there were probably millions of science fiction books published in the mid-20th century, not ONE of them that we know of predicted the Internet. It is very difficult even for bright people to "predict" the future. Wonder why government planners are so sure they can.

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