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Friday, July 09, 2010 – by Staff Report

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IMF tells Europe to inject more stimulus ... The International Monetary Fund has called on the European Central Bank to prepare fresh emergency action to stabilise debt markets, throwing its weight behind calls for renewed monetary stimulus to offset budget cuts. "Markets are not yet convinced of the central bank's commitment to scaling up purchases if necessary to prevent a further deterioration in market functioning," said the IMF's Global Financial Stability Report. The IMF called on Europe's authorities to make their €500bn (£420bn) rescue fund is "fully operational" and to explain how they intend to shore up banks that fail stress tests. "Test results will need to be complemented by a plan that specifies how capital-deficient institutions would be handled. Bank reporting and disclosure standards, in general, need to be improved," it said. – UK Telegraph

Dominant Social Theme: The wise men must step forth and salvage the markets.

Free-Market Analysis: Obviously the austerity meme has served its purpose. The world's central banking wise men seem far more worried now that, left unattended, the West will continue to struggle with deleveraging and price deflation. We have predicted this all along, running a series of articles discussing inflation and deflation and suggesting the likely outcome is an inflationary problem rather than a deflationary one. Here's some more from the article:

The IMF called on Europe's authorities to make their €500bn (£420bn) rescue fund "fully operational" and to explain how they intend to shore up banks that fail stress tests. "Test results will need to be complemented by a plan that specifies how capital-deficient institutions would be handled. Bank reporting and disclosure standards, in general, need to be improved," it said. ...

While the IMF stopped short of calling for the ECB to launch full quantitative easing (QE), it is clearly worried that the bank's passive policies have allowed credit to wilt and led to fresh strains in interbank lending markets and sovereign debt. "Downside risks to the recovery have risen sharply. Bank funding pressures may accelerate the ongoing deleveraging process. It is too early to tell if actual bank lending growth will worsen in the euro area, after recently stabilising at barely positive year-on-year rates," it said.

This is what central banks do, of course. They inflate. In good times, central banks print too much money and in bad times they print as much or more. What central bankers and the power elite that stands behind do not want – and cannot tolerate in our view – is a great deal of social unrest as the result of what could turn into a deflationary depression if fresh supplies of money are not delivered daily. Of course in the long-term it is still unclear as to how much price deflation is to be delivered by the powers-that-be, but they are clearly worried.

We mentioned the other day that the unrest in Europe is being underreported. There are continued massive strikes in both Greece and Portugal, and Spain is not having an easy time of it either. It is likely most important from the standpoint of the elite and the larger socioeconomic structure as well that the unrest be tamed and the system itself reignited. Inflation, in this regard, may be preferable to deflation, at least for the moment. And this is not only a concern in Europe but in America as well.

The same problems that are afflicting Europe have come home to roost in the United States. There is in fact a sovereign wealth crisis that has affected most of America's states and has of course helped destabilize the dollar. The IMF in fact has now urged the US Federal government to work on closing the country's tremendous, ever-increasing debt, and the Washington Post just recently commented on the matter using a vocabulary similar to that of the IMF's:

Federal Reserve weighs steps to offset slowdown in economic recovery ... Federal Reserve officials, increasingly concerned over signs the economic recovery is faltering, are considering new steps to bolster growth ... With Congress tied in political knots over whether to take further action to boost the economy, Fed leaders are weighing modest steps that could offer more support for economic activity at a time when their target for short-term interest rates is already near zero. They are still resistant to calls to pull out their big guns -- massive infusions of cash, such as those undertaken during the depths of the financial crisis -- but would reconsider if conditions worsen.

Top Fed officials still say that the economic recovery is likely to continue into next year and that the policy moves being discussed are not imminent. But weak economic reports, the debt crisis in Europe and faltering financial markets have led them to conclude that the risks of the recovery losing steam have increased. After months of focusing on how to exit from extreme efforts to support the economy, they are looking at tools that might strengthen growth. (- Washington Post)

We can see a sub-dominant social theme at work here. The larger theme of course is the wisdom of central banks generally. But the lack of liquidity affecting markets and "sovereign" economies today has its roots in a fairly low velocity of money. And this is obviously just as worrisome in America as it is in Europe. A fiat system, in fact, is only as good as the confidence that people have about it. A fiat system, therefore, is nothing like an asset-based system, presumably one supported by both gold and silver.

Instead, the West struggles a string and makes endless attempts to push it. The situation is bound to be worrisome now only to the powers-that-be that have designed the system and are struggling to hold it together but to investors as well. The struggles of the elite, and their success or failure, will have an impact on every aspect of the West's financial structure.

In fact, there is a whole range of possibilities now that include not only inflation or deflation but the possibility of an economic rebound as well. Central banks can re-inflate in Europe and America but this does not mean that the economies themselves will pick up. There was "stagflation" in the 1970s and if there is additional inflation in the West, stagflation is the most likely outcome once again. If Western economies do pick up a bit, eventually, there is also the possibility of some sort of hyperinflation. It almost happened late in the 1970s, and those were conditions in our view that were actually BETTER than today's.

In such times of crisis, central bankers, having developed the problems to begin with, want to be perceived as having the answers. The answer is always the same of course – and has to do with printing boatloads of money. The investor is left contemplating a range of options having to do with the underperformance or over-performance of a variety of assets depending on the moves made by monetary authorities. Bonds, stocks, gold and silver, commodities in general are all going to be influenced by these decisions.

Politics comes into play as well, given that China, Russia and other countries are increasingly uncomfortable with the dollar. The IMF (controlled in fact by the Anglo-American elite) is offering another, more globalized solution (SDRs) to take the dollar's place. But such a solution has manifold challenges in front of it, including a lack of credibility.

Conclusion: The effect that the Internet has had on people's belief in the system must be factored in, and a general rising tide of disbelief and frustration. The business cycle has not yet played itself out, either. Any moves that central bankers make in either Europe or the US must be seen in the context of an additional 5-10 years of economic restructuring before this current money-metals bull market likely winds to a close. The powers-that-be won't mention it of course, but they've lost control and it is not easy to see how they can regain it in the near future, anyway. They will continue to sound confident; they are not.




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  Posted by Ed Waggoner Sr. on 07/14/10 12:54 AM

DB stated,

"THE MARKET DETERMINES THE MONEY SUPPLY." This is nothing other than saying that the people determines the money supply. There is simply no good reason for anyone, government or bank, to print money. Paper and ink are killing us. Gold is money. It is a great irony that the power blinded PE are searching for a one world currency and fail to see that God gave us just that at the creation of the world.

Restoring sound money is the first step in the restoration of honest government.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Sir, it is simply not true. "Paper and ink" receipts - hundreds if not thousands of year ago - were PRIVATE inventions given out by warehouse owners to those who stored gold and silver with them. These paper receipts were eventually accepted regionally in place of the actual metals. That is how "paper and ink" money got its start ... In the marketplace. Would you ban such a process were it to reoccur?

  Posted by Geral Bostock on 07/12/10 11:32 AM

You said:

"It begins to look as if the idea is to swap IMF SDRs for the dollar because that is the fastest way to generate a global currency. It is a loony idea, but seems nonetheless on its way ..."

Loonie yes, but that is how they run things. People bought into the Euro, didn't they? And it is just a peg. Countries can keep their own currencies, but they have to stop printing willy-nilly.

  Posted by Vincent Cate on 07/12/10 06:02 AM

I think you and your readers would like an article I wrote about paper money vs gold cycles and the current mess.

http://pair.offshore.ai/38yearcycle/

Reply from The Daily Bell

Thanks for the link. Very good! Well done!

  Posted by Dan on 07/11/10 11:27 PM

Dear Bell, we seem to be at war. The BIS and creditor nations favor hard money. The IMF and debtor nations seem to favor funny money. Gresham's law is very clear;"Bad money drives out good if their exchange rate is set by law." I'm not sure that "law" can enter the equation in a multi-lateral world. We know that COMMERCE is dying for lack of a stable currency. SDRs won't supply that.

Do you think that COMMERCE and the bond market have the ability to demand an asset-backed currency? I believe that the bond market will "shun" fiat currencies if given a choice. "Law" in this case may turn out to be the law of "supply and demand". What say you?

Reply from The Daily Bell

Let's try to reduce this a little. The elite is always at war with gold and silver - honest money. But as their plans reach a fever pitch of insanity, they distort the market more and more until a collapse is inevitable. The war you refer to you, in our view, is merely a protracted struggle against the inevitable.

  Posted by Bruce C. on 07/11/10 07:09 PM

I'd like to address this issue from a different perspective (i.e., not from the IMF's/"elites'").

There are the play by play maneuvers and intrigues and then there is the end game. Everyone is trying to understand what's going on and act/position themselves accordingly. This is the bottom line: The world economy has grown relatively too large for the US dollar to be the world's reserve currency. Additionally, the US has become over extended and the dollar system is doomed to collapse. Another sort of currency will become the reserve. When that transition takes place those who own physical gold and silver will "begin" their new financial life significantly "ahead" of those who don't.

In the meantime, existing currencies will of necessity, despite every good reason not to, be devalued. Debts that can not be repaid (most in existence) wont be. That's deflationary in and of itself, but concurrent currency devaluations will mask the simultaneous dynamics. The net result should be a shockingly sudden state of hyper inflation (i.e., worthless currency) and the recoronation of gold/silver as the ultimate storers of value.

There is a philosophical vindication to all of this. (As Ayn Rand said, "The philosophical IS the practical." ) Those who have the curiosity, the foresight, the knowledge, and the courage to act on the analysis of one's own mind is worthy and deserving of one's fruits. Such is the natural order, and nature isn't cruel or unjust.

Reply from The Daily Bell

"Such is the natural order, and nature isn't cruel or unjust.'

We have watched first Bush and now Obama deliberately debase the currency. It is a policy with a purpose. It begins to look as if the idea is to swap IMF SDRs for the dollar because that is the fastest way to generate a global currency. It is a loony idea, but seems nonetheless on its way ...

  Posted by Anonymouse on 07/11/10 04:40 PM

The power elite [Council on Foreign Relations, London Round Table, Bilderburgers et al] have made the same play and lost control before---some even had a small conscience and enacted the Glass-Steagall Act to avoid the suffering they caused in the 30-40's. Evidently it wasn't enough and now the Western middle class must be raped again to feed their lust for wealth and power....these people have lost their soul, and any sense of goodness, and if there is a hell will surely reside there someday....

  Posted by AmanfromMars on 07/11/10 02:31 PM

"In such times of crisis, central bankers, having developed the problems to begin with, want to be perceived as having the answers. The answer is always the same of course ‒ and has to do with printing boatloads of money."

The secret in the answer though, is to ensure that boatloads of money go to those who can spend it in a Global Applications Program which is designed specifically to regenerate Economies and Societies ....... in a dDutch Initiative ur2die? Anything less ambitious which doesn't embrace and energise something virtually revolutionary, which would be for example, just a recapitalisation of the players and organisations which have developed the problems to begin with, will see the fractional reserve and fiat monetary system collapse for want of an Intelligently Designed Alternative System.

Such as they who are Fools, and who would treat and threaten the World as a Fool with their Tools and their monies, are always easily parted, are they not, for is that not the mantra of central bankers?

You may like to consider the Present Corrupt and Perverse Slave System is hacked, and Rainbow Hats, in every colour from Black to White, and in every shade of Grey, are in Virtual Control of Real Power in the Future Field of Current Play.

Have a nice ZerodDay, y'all.

  Posted by Therooster on 07/11/10 01:32 PM

Inflation buys some time until the masses/market figure that the answer lies in the monetization of assets.... gold and silver, but that this time is truly different in that it will be done from the bottom-up.

Decentralization and the movement of gold-as-money is far different today than back in the pays of the fixed peg of the BW agreement. I can now buy a single stick of gum with fully backed digitized gold title in an instant. Debt free store of value has integrated with instant global liquidity thanks to real-time applications.

We really don't have a currency crisis as per a design issue. We actually have a marketing challenge as long as people keep "looking up to gov't" to save them. We save ourselves. The market works !

We've been supply driven since "the apple was shoved in our faces". I think it's about time for a change.

  Posted by Bruce C. on 07/11/10 10:47 AM

The only thing the "elites" care about is maintaining and increasing their wealth, They don't care about civil unrest per se, they care about avoiding currency crises, and that means maintaining the value of their assets. Their ideal is to allow price deflation to occur eventually, but only after certain assets have been sold for cash or converted to "hard" assets. Then, when price deflation runs its course, even more assets can be bought with their cash and hard assets, thus once again managing to essentially confiscate more wealth from "the masses". This plan, however, requires the major currencies (dollar and euro) to be stable. A currency crisis of the euro or dollar at this time is what would wipe them out.

That plan also dovetails nicely with the possibility that a new hard-asset backed currency is introduced in case the reflation efforts go hyperbolic. In that case, they, along with everyone else who has physical, will be the only ones left standing financially.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Excellent analysis. We tend to agree with this. The idea that the elite at this point simply seeks "the more chaos the better" runs against the way they have operated in the past. They seek CONTROLLED chaos for very specific reasons ...

  Posted by Buzz Arden on 07/11/10 04:11 AM

Some good points made above but what jumps out at me, particularly with the longer posts, is the truism that a lie goes down easier wrapped in a truth. Some wonderful "confabulated" theories gone wrong with a single false premise. Lots of frostin on a turd " still aint no cupcake.

  Posted by Jefferson's PC Was Broken on 07/11/10 12:28 AM

It's not the job of the powers-that-be to sort this out. They represent the supply side of the equation and this top-down problem cannot be solved with a top-down solution. It must be bottom-up with an accelerated move toward being more demand driven to bring the power equation into balance. We have been supply driven since "the apple was shoved in our faces". In short, we've always been in "bad shape".

Only now, within the information age, can a monetary system be "rounded out" via decentralization. Decentralization means that money must be asset based as we cannot all run around writing IOU's. Gold will work nicely now that digitized title can be transfered as a currency, denominated in any weight, large or small. You can now buy a single jelly bean from a merchant on the other side of the planet using fully backed gold title. Store of value and instant global liquidity have become integrtaed ..... and without debt !

All the establishment can do is "carry the stick" as a motivator.
They got lousy parts in "the script" ..... necessary evils.

There's no system design problem at all .... only a marketing challenge.

  Posted by Dan on 07/10/10 10:44 PM

OK, speaking of fairness, what should a banker be paid. The only legitimate use of a bank is to allocate capital and measure risk. Other than that, they are parasitic. They generate so much paper that it can never be redeemed in the physical economy. Why should bankers suck the vitality out of the productive economy and be richly rewarded?

Why should Icelanders pay off the debts of private banks? Why should anybody? Ellen Brown claims that only 1 % of Wall Street's business is , raising capital for productive business. Their wild gambling had to bust eventually.

No way in hell do they want a Tobin Tax but, they're sure as hell enthusiastic about a VAT tax. They're more than willing to keep sucking out the lifeblood of the productive economy. They seem to ignore the fact that all the defaults that they cause will hurt them too.

BTW, Germany went off the silver standard when the Comstock lode was discovered in Nevada.

  Posted by Rycoka on 07/10/10 06:38 PM

Arguably "austerity" is the answer. The funadamental issues are globalisation and western demographics. Both suggest a smaller slice of the resource pie for western countries. Westerners need to get used to living with less " austerity.

The key is fairness. When all levels of society are being seen to share the pain their is less likelihood of social unrest. Unfortunately, globalisation creates huge winners in both the West and the emerging markets. Unless these winners show a willingness to share their winnings (super profit tax anyone?) then fairness is impossible.

  Posted by Pat Fields on 07/10/10 11:58 AM

Shallow, reflexive preconception of thoroughly gross ignorance in my grasp of monetary history is not something I expected from a DB respondent. I'm frankly taken aback. Perhaps the inclination may have connection with an equally false presumption regarding my gender?

In any event, it's clear by the castigation of 'money metals are no meme' that the thrust of my observation was entirely missed as a result, so I'll restate it; as I maintain that the subterfuge I'd pointed out is nevertheless rather worthy of sincere examination.

If not by DB's staff, then by my fellow readers and commentators.

During the 10th century the physical interconnection between Pound Sterling and gold was manifest. A Pound, veritably the exclusive money, was literally 12 troy ounces of silver directly exchangeable with a troy ounce of gold (extending back to 3rd century BC, Carthage) and that forthright simplicity of design, lending itself to ease of calculation, propelled England's currency toward its development as the markets' preferred medium of inter-exchange (what we now think of as 'reserve currency').

Lore has it that because of such acceptance, temptation to debauch the Pound was quickly set into motion and by the 1300s it was so diminished (50%) that silver had obviously to be systematically eliminated as 'official' money. By the late 1700s, that object was municipally accomplished and by the late 1800s it was universal. In the immortal methodology of Bastiat we might question ... 'This much is seen, but what may we ascertain from investigating what is not seen'.

It is always presumed a willful act and so it is never further enquired whether extraneous causes may lay behind debauchery.

My conclusion is that because government so very long ago committed the monetary 'Original Sin' of affixing proprietary names and numbers on money (for conveniences in taxing), they have doomed themselves to defend those symbols against money's inexorable natural appreciation borne of population growth continually exerting demand in excess of supply. This demand factor is corroborated by various isolated pre-20th century studies of 'price inflation' when juxtaposed against others examining (gold) 'price' depreciation of silver and population growth estimates over the same time spans ... all approximating a half percent per annum!

On a strictly practical basis, it is no wonder that 'False Pride' is one of the 'Seven Deadly Sins'! This proclivity to fix what is ultimately an arbitrary market 'value' on (gold) money is folly when a steady 'headwind' of demand in excess of supply, continually contradicts the decree. So, by centuries of denying the sin's commitment ... and defiantly refusing to atone ... it is rather government's useless, farcical 'swimming against the rip tide' that is dragging us all into an abyss of paper chits (the very worst accommodation. as was discovered by the Chinese Emperors).

The only logical 'fix' that can be placed on money is some globally standardized weight and fineness, allowing free rational adjustments of all other goods along the spectrum to attain their mercurial 'values' accordingly. Until that 'mea culpa' is loudly pronounced in chorus, all roads will lead back to the denarius.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Pat Fields. Since Pat could refer to a man or a woman, we wouldn't have a preconception about your gender!

You make good points about gold and silver, especially, and you have obviously studied monetary history. When we looked into it, the removal of silver as money around the world was both startling and methodical. An animating intelligence seemed behind these moves.

  Posted by Jesse on 07/10/10 11:57 AM

The economy will not 'cure' itself through neglect and liquidation, because it did not get this way by itself. This is the failure of those who prescribe stimulus or austerity, but without significant systemic reform. The banks must be restrained, the financial system reformed, and balance restored to the economy, before there can be any sustained recovery

  Posted by Victor Barney on 07/10/10 11:46 AM

"Cashless Society," anyone? How many people know that the set-apart Bible is all about the nation of Israel, through the name of Joseph(England and America), not Judah, except for receiving the promised Messiah through their seed? How many people know that Israel lost their name because they broke the covenant that they had made with their Creator, i.e., keeping the 7th Day Sabbath? How many people know that Israel through Joseph's seed are absolutely forbidden from putting a foreigner(non-Israelite) over them? Do I need to mention that Marxism is anti-messiah by definition? How many people know that "Hebrew" is the only spiritually inspired language and all things must be proven through it? At least now I understand why the two-witnesses come to "free" the set-apart people(only 288,000, by the way)in the latter days! Watch!

  Posted by Ian MacFarlane on 07/10/10 09:27 AM

I am not sure what to make of what has been written. To own physical gold and silver is an indication of trust in an acceptable order which doesn't allow specious claims to last very long. The expressions "put your money where your mouth is" as well as "put up or shut up" both ask for a proof beyond words or the paper on which they are printed. Precious metals are precious for that very reason.

  Posted by Eddie Beer on 07/10/10 09:11 AM

Very interesting article and posts. Thank you all.

I would like to add a concept that I believe wasn't specifically touched upon. Gold and silver have historically been accepted as money. A store of value. I don't see how this can be said about debt at all. The scarcity, compactness and the long shelf life of the metals also makes it ideal for the purpose.( As opposed to sea shells or wheat for example.) The reason fiat currency whether paper or debt or electronic is so attractive to the elite is obviously because it can be created at will by all the sovereign bankers and governments. The only thing that keeps the 'presses' in check are the counter parties. I.e. other governments/banks and the people they rule.

The only way a true fiat system without a link to anything would work is if there is only one central bank. A world central bank under the sway of one governing body. I don't foresee that happening very soon because there isn't the cooperation necessary for that. Which brings us back to gold and silver.

Like amongst thieves. In the end the sovereigns themselves demand an honest accounting without counter party risk, which only the metals can assure.

  Posted by Jimi BigBear on 07/10/10 01:26 AM

As engineers Ted Thoren and Dick Warner pointed out in their seminal, "The Truth in Money Book," backing by any commodity, be it gold, silver, or wheat is irrelevant. The problem is all the "money" " and let's be clear that we're talking private BANK fiat " Faux Fiat (as I call it) and NOT government fiat currencies " nearly the world over " that all money is DEBT! If somehow it were magically possible to "pay" all the debts, THERE WOULD BE NO MONEY! Once one grasps this simple fact, then a solution begins to be seen. Until that point, all of us blind, we
continued to be lead by the blind.

Many of the comments on this article parrot the Austrian/hard money meme that governments crank up the printing presses and inflation raises its ugly head again. As Thoren and Warner point out:

"The question needs to be asked: if the government "prints money" " presumably to pay its bills " how could it possibly be in debt? If the government were printing money, it could never have a multi-trillion dollar national debt because it would have printed the money to pay for its expenditures; it wouldn't have needed to borrow a nickel from anyone! The multi-trillion national debt is all the proof necessary to show that the "government printing press" is a MYTH. While we know that the government has made many silly and many serious mistakes, the claim that the government "runs a printing press" to create money is one of the most specious lies ever published." " from Appendix 11 " "Monetary Science and the Gold Standard" in "The Truth in Money Book" by Theodore Thoren and Richard Warner.

This is the crux of the matter in a nutshell: that for MOST of our Country's (USA) history, the MONEY POWER (as Van Buren always wrote it) has been in the hands of what some call The Establishment, what The Bell prefers to call the "Power or Global Elite" but what is increasingly becoming clear and doesn't merit even the status of an elite or a Plutocracy, but is in fact a Zionist CRIMOCRACY " rule by criminals with a global agenda to own the world in fee simple.

It's time to bring back the Greenbacks " restore the MONEY POWER to the Rightful Sovereign " We the People.

Trying to fix this problem on the national level is a complete waste of time. It's too corrupt. We have to take back our power closer to home " at the State level in the US, with State PUBLIC banks. Once the citizens of a growing number of States with PUBLIC banks (like the Bank of North Dakota) see how good life can be when we don't have to borrow every penny and pay it back with interest, then they'll quite naturally start issuing their own money " TRUE FIAT CURRENCY " and quit using the DEBT and USURY laden Federal Reserve Notes.

The Lost Science of Money will be restored and people will be able to enjoy gold and silver and other commodities for their own intrinsic value and beauty. Gold and silver will remain what they MOSTLY are today " jewelry.

Liberty, Peace, Prosperity and Love
Jimi

Reply from The Daily Bell

1. The Bell has long been on the record pointing out the "austerity" meme is just another falsehood to control people - the tribes of Europe and sooner or later Americans as well.

2. The Bell consistently points out that the current central banking system is mercantilist, using the color of government for private elite gain.

3. The Bell has made hard-money counterarguments regarding the Brownian theology, but we've also been careful to point out that we believe it is a most appealing solution (for many people) and will likely be explored comprehensively before this "financial crisis" is over.

4. But money is gold and silver. It is a historical fact, no matter what arguments are lobbed against it. Government does not define money any more than government defines anything else. The private market provides workable definitions, along with social systems and viable products and services. Presumably, if government were competent enough to provide money it could also provide workable schools, roads and post offices. It cannot do any of this. Why should it be trusted with money?

5. Nonetheless ... we would be perfectly content to see a Brownian system enacted in one or many states so long as GOLD AND SILVER COULD CIRCULATE TOO. Let there be a fair, free-market contest between various kinds of money to determine the winner. We would bet, ultimately, on gold and silver, free-banking, maybe real bills etc.

6. Anyway, how does Ms. Brown intend to "fit" the money supply to the economy. She cannot. No one can. It is simply another form of central planning and, like the USSR's version, will eventually fail.

7. How does one avoid eternal and expanding corruption when the state prints all the money? It is a recipe for cronyism, influence peddling etc.

8. Gold and silver are dug out of the ground. The market itself determines the amount. Too much gold and silver and mines shut down and the hoarding begins (no use selling gold at low prices). Too little gold and silver and the prices go up and people begin to dis-hoard and mines open back up. THE MARKET DETERMINES THE MONEY SUPPLY. This is the Achilles' heel of the Brownian argument. It has nothing to do with debt (though you make a very good point about the debt) and everything to do with inflation and eventually price inflation (and corruption besides).

9. Hope, once again, this responds in a material way to the points you raise. You really ought to read Human Action, if you have not. It shows quite clearly that no matter what plans government makes, people will always make their own, thus throwing government planning in to disarray. Human action trumps state action (sooner or later) every time.

10. We put our hope in PEOPLE, and their HUMAN ACTION, not in the state and its impersonal and eternally corrupt bureaucracy. Trust people and their free-markets, not the state.

  Posted by Pat Fields on 07/09/10 09:30 PM

Gold, as I see it, is the Banksters' first (modern) 'meme', raised to deification after the Pound Sterling gave up its centuries gone ghost to the paper chit. As gold had always been the 'big boyz money', it was a 'slam dunk' for them to monopolize the full gamut of commerce with it, if it was made subconsciously THE TRUE MONEY.

Silver and copper had to be supplanted at first and eventually deposed as money altogether if the ultimate transmogrification of 'money' to mere ciphers (government's 'Original Sin' ... to have confabulated money and numbers) was ever to attain its pinnacle of success and be made purely ethereal symbols alone.

With the 'meme' propigated that 'gold is money' (and really NOTHING else), the pea was then under the shell!

Reply from The Daily Bell

No, Ms. Fields. Gold and silver succeeded as money via thousands of years of active money competition with other forms of currency. Money metals are no meme. There are silver mines that go back thousands and thousands of years. Money metals are forged in the fire of history and utility.

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