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NROL-49 space patch for US 224

The Latin words "melior diabolus quem scies" are inscribed on the patch. This roughly translates to mean "the devil you know," as in the phrase "better the devil you know than the devil you don't know.

This kind of story does not surprise me at all. Its a fact that our world with all its clever "clever leaders" are destroying the earth due to greed of money and power, completely ignoring the fact that the our actions affect the world, the universe and our future.

I welcome the decision of intergalactic intervention using powers beyond our capability and knowledge to save our entire universe. New world order is definately on the cards, and hope that the world can accept that aliens are for love and peace and that we can somehow adapt to drastic changes in our overall outlook of life that we know.

I also firmly believe that God is the leader of all this intervention that needs to take place as the aliens are our space brothers, as we are made in the same likeness as the bible puts it. God bless you all. Raymond

Semi-interesting. A lot of arguements that center on what we know. Such as..traveling at the speed of light. I have not read all theories of the universe such as the possible, Electrical Universe, yet? So I will posit with ignorance, knowing I have never been beaten at chess by the gnomes, thank you I misspell? Your thinking and schooling is also your weakness. Rigid and built upon rigidity. If Chaos is introduced, your calculations diminish beyond your ability to calculate. You Lose.

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Gee, the entire world seems to be showing signs of continual distress and you are concerned with some sort of metaphorical Bell victory ... or defeat? Seems a tad parochial ...

And yeah, when I first heard about scalar wars and chemtrails I thought it was flat out crazy too, but then I looked up at the sky and noticed and after a bit of reading I was stunned. If you need a video version to understand chemtrails, here's a lead:

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Forget about extra-terrestrial UFO's. What about the terrestrial ones known as chemtrails, what's up with that? (Sorry to be so in your face, but this needs to be out in the open and I'd appreciate the thoughts of more intelligent opinions):

Here are some links that *might* be helpful to share with individuals stuck in denial about chemtrails and govt. weather modification programs:

Click to view link.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf (Air Force Research paper called "Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025)

Click to view link (A follow-up and excellent analysis by Michael Chossudovsky that also mentions the HAARP weapons program)

Click to view link (news article discussing how the Chinese modified the weather during the Olympics)

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(Declassified US Govt. document about cloud-seeding from 1967 to 1972 in Vietnam to flood the Ho Chi Minh trail)

@Galdisant

Quote: So much superior to all the rest of us, that there are in fact such people who could rule over us?

But the internet is screwing that all up for the powers that be.

Most of the drawings of Aliens I've seen they all have big eyes. Just maybe they can see much better than we do.

Actions speak louder than words.

Does it seem possible that the glamorization of science through the promotion of such questionable things as string theory and dark matter are actually directed at making all of us think that there are people with such superior intelligences, so much superior to all the rest of us, that there are in fact such people who could rule over us?

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Yes.

Why we have not been visited by aliens.

All complex life forms have myriad other life forms associated with them. It is estimated that half our body weight is actually composed of organisms other than our own integral cells. Every time we breath out, or even touch something, many associated life forms are shed.

This would undoubtedly be true for any organisms evolving on other planets. Were they present they would undoubtedly have shed many types of organisms into our environment, despite their best efforts to avoid doing so.

For quite some time now, since we have discovered reliable ways to do DNA analysis, taxonomic scientists have been doing gene mapping, in the attempt to produce a new tree of life, and to place the evolution of one life form in its proper context to others that they have evolved from. This has provided a rational and sequential picture of which organisms evolved from which, and how.

Any microscopic organism that evolved off-planet would be so glaringly out of this evolutionary sequence as to be instantly noticeable. There are many hundreds of people doing this work, and any finding of this magnitude would be instantly published.

The absence of such findings mitigates against such organisms existing.

Why the universe can not be filled with intelligent life.

The whole of our universe is thought to be 15 billion years old, starting with the big bang.

The life of a star from birth to death is approximately 10 billion years. Our sun is about half way through its life span, at about 5 billion years. So our sun is in the second generation of stars that have formed since the big bang.

However, the only elements that were formed during the big bang were hydrogen, helium, and small amounts of lithium, the first three and lightest of the 92 natural elements of the periodic table.

All the rest of the heavier elements necessary to produce complex life forms, such as carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and all of the heavy elements necessary to produce planets, are only produced inside stars at their death when they go nova at the end of their life.

Thus, the whole first generation of stars would not contain any planets nor have any of the heavy elements necessary to form life.

It is only the second generation of stars that have attracted the remnants of the first generation of star fragments that have planets with the whole compliment of all the elements in the periodic table.

When you consider that it took the first half of the life of our star, approximately 5 billion years to have the planets cool and evolve life to the stage it is now, it is apparent that our earth may be one of the very first to have evolved intelligent life.

Why are you all still on this UFO business? This is so far into la la land that it escapes me why you dwell on it.

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David, anytime we have the chance to comment on a prediction featuring an Intergalactic Gang of 8 that has suspended the law of "Galactic non-interference" to visit the earth and save it from global warming, well ... we'll take it.

"Finally, it is true that one always has to keep in mind the vague, faint, shadowy notion that what one is analyzing is not a promotion at all! Thus as skeptical as we are that a Council of 8 comprised of Intergalactic aliens will visit the UN in 2014, we cannot altogether discount the possibility. We just hope that such a visitation would not end up in a replay of the movie "Mars Attacks."

Enrico Fermi once put forward the following paradox:
If intelligent aliens do exist or have existed in our galaxy, they should also have visited earth. But there seems to be no evidence of this.
This is, if I remember right, because intelligent beings will try to colonize other planets to seccure their existence. This would be done by traveling to the nearest planetary system and colonizing it. If the travel itself takes some years or even decades (a few light years of distance), and the colonisation takes, lets say, some hundred thousand years (to ecoengeneer the atmosphere, grow the population, industrialize, ...), the whole galaxy will be populated soon in relation to the age of the earth (some billions years), because of the exponential growth of the number of colonized planets. If from the mother planet, lets say, two new planets are colonized, than after 37 cycles (2^37 ~ 100 000 000 000, the number of stars in our galaxy), the hole galaxy is colonized. That is than in about 10 million years. So the galaxy should be filled with intelligent live, if it ever existed somewhere.

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Much of the hoopla over the Council of 8 and Stanley Fulham's prognostications can readily be attributed to Elite memes. It's the same with many UFO sites and revelations.

But there's a new site that caused me to pause and wonder -- The Day Before Disclosure.

Click here -- Click to view link

I watched this video with full expectation that it could be an Elite promotion. But I found it to be a mind stretching experience.

It did have a few anomalies, like an astronaut who (supposedly) landed on the moon affirming UFO sightings. But it also had the credibility of Stanton Friedman backing up the principal themes of the film -- we have been visited many times; the data to support this is overwhelming; it has been covered up; it will all be exposed soon.

I am still like the apostle Thomas. "Let me put my fingers in the holes in his hands, and then I will believe." But this film makes the best case I've seen to date.

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Thanks for the link.

To combat the currency collapse: Will the intergalactic aliens confiscate or declare gold valueless? Perhaps to be replaced by a new intergalactic fiat currency backed by "reserves" in a distant nebula? How do Daily Bell readers best position themselves?

Perhaps global government, with some decentralization, will also be part of the new intergalactic scheme. And the Daily Bell will be able to take a long one-way hike into the Swiss Alps while the power elite celebrates the one-world solution. Or will this make the intergalactic aliens with the superior technology the new "power elite" to be struggled against?

Also, can we have it both ways on global warming? If global warming is a scam, bad science or hoax, then will not the solution to the hoax also be a hoax or scam? Solving a non-problem does not require intergalactic do-gooders. Reminds me of: A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, Mark Twain's novel. But a very entertaining article, Daily Bell.

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Thanks.

O.K. Let's stop. Take a breath. And think this thing through applying more than a bit of good libertarian logic to the matter.

First, the matter of interplanetary travel. If interplanetary travel beyond maybe the nearest star is to be achieved, it is going to be more a matter of powerful mathematics than powerful engines.

The powerful engines approach crashes headlong into the galactic speed limit: the speed of light. It will require a machine capable of radical warping of space-time. Thus any actual intergalactic spaceship will have more in common with Dr. Who's TARDIS than Captain Kirk's Enterprise. Thus if you see an alleged spaceship that whooshes like a 747, you can bet it's a fraud. Although one that looks like an old British phone booth might merit a closer look.

Second, the society of the space aliens. Laissez Faire capitalism is the natural economic order for complex cognitive beings living in a world of scarcity. It is the various forms of authoritarianism and slavery that require a constant process of fraud and bullying to keep going.

Yet in spite of it all, even in such dismal "Utopias" as the late unlamented Soviet Union or the unreformed Peoples Republic of China, bits of capitalism kept sprouting out here and there like very hardy weeds in spite of vicious repression and an constant propaganda barrage.

A society capable of both developing the technology of intergalactic travel and the economic wherewithal to attempt it, has going to have to be one with a long period, probably centuries, of laissez faire governance.

Thus libertarian notions would be an ingrained tradition with them. Now being complex cognitive beings with free will, they could always reject their long traditions, but it is unlikely. So they would have a very good sense that arbitrary power-based interventions in our affairs would be counterproductive just as governmental interventions in the economy tend to bring about the opposite from the allegedly desired result.

So intervention in our affairs from such visceral libertarians would at most be a very long and pointed lecture and if we earthlings were too stupid to take their advice, they would leave us to stew in our own juices knowing attempts at amending us from the top down would only make things worse.

Thus any alleged space aliens that mouth elite memes or threaten coercive interventions are unquestionably frauds.

Using the threat of invasion and conquest by space aliens as a device to further a power agenda is bound to ultimately collapse of its own stupidity.

Now, in the era of the internet, can any group of conspirators, even with the acquiescence of big media pull off the scam? Even if they can generate a mass panic out of acceptance of whomever or whatever they try to pass off as diplomats from a planet far away, there will still be skeptics, who will burn up the internet pointing out the obvious contradictions in the words and threats of the alleged aliens. The meme will collapse at the popular level just like the global warming meme.

Yes, as Dr. Leon Festinger pointed out, as the cost of accepting the doctrines of the alleged aliens increases, some people will become more doggedly attached to them. But the skeptics will become more dogged too as the personal and psychological cost of opposition increases. The skeptics need to keep the public abreast of any obvious space alien fraud made obvious by the two above points. As long as the internet is open, that is just what they will do.

Halloween 2010 is not Halloween 1938.

Best wishes.

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Wonderful, thanks.

We are right on schedule with the coming alignment of December 21, 2012. Remember that forecast? Also, one comment was right on target when the Bible was referenced. Lucifer is referred to as 'the morning star' in the NIV translation at Isaiah 14:12. Jesus states that He is 'the bright and morning star' in Revelation 22:16. The coming deception will indeed be close and discernment will be required.

A KEY to the outcome is found in 2 Thessalonians 2:8 wherein is stated "And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the LORD shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming." (King James) Now what absolutely amazes me is that it appears that not one of the popular evangelical churchmen, or best selling secular authors, who have spoken and written about 12-21-12 have put together the fact that at exactly 11:11 PM (Universal Time) Friday, December 21, Click to view link is not only the beginning of the winter solstice, but it is also The Sabbath.

I am not a religious church going fanatic. I am not even Jewish nor 7th Day Adventist, however, I AM a student of the Bible and a History major with a 4.0 average in college and I do research and WRITE books about the NWO, Illuminati, Carlyle Group, Bilderbergs, Rothschilds, powerful global elite, and end time prophecies. Lastly, consider the WORDS of Christ in Matthew 24:20 wherein He said, "But pray ye that your flight be not in the WINTER, neither on the SABBATH DAY. (caps added) December 21, 2012 at 11:11 PM lines up with both ingredients in this verse.

Current events and those pushing the NWO down our throats are also right on schedule. It fits perfectly that 'they' will use the alien agenda threat as either the ultimate TERRORIST alert or as a positive 'lie' that higher intelligence space beings are trying to 'save' us from ourselves. Either way...we are right on schedule according to the Bible.

And if you have just remembered another Bible verse wherein Jesus stated, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." Mark 13:32 You are correct. Friday, December 21, 2012 at 11:11 PM is an exact day and an exact hour, however, ask yourself if Jesus was referring to 1. The Rapture 2. His Second Coming or 3. The end of the world? Either way, as my Granddaddy, who lived within 6 weeks of celebrating his 100th birthday said, "BE YE THEREFORE READY."

Thank you for the liberty to post and share that which is so very important in these very last of the last days. The population of this planet MUST remove the veil of deception from their eyes and unplug their ears. Wake up! It is later than you think!!!

@Granted

I think you make some good points. I can just imagine some hillbilly (no offense to hillbillies, I'm surrounded by them {which is why I say that}) being knocked off his rocker when the President is doing a photo opp with some alien ambassador!

Certainly he would have his cranial impacted then. But only then to be sure.

Aliens? Yeah, they're out there. I spend a lot of my nights atop my doghouse in the backyard with a flashlight, trying to signal them. Sometimes I can sense they're watching. No direct response to date. Other nights my mind wanders and I get to thinking: Could we have been put here as universe jesters? You know, a place where space travelers can hover for a few minutes for a good laugh? To relieve the stresses of galaxy travel? I find myself thinking more and more about this of late. Especially when the mosquitoes are bad.

I think this strategy of theirs (aliens) nowadays would backfire. The technology, we know they have. And some acctual contact with real aliens they might have had already for quite sometime.

The thing is.. Most people are to used to think that all this UFO thing is a bunch of BS. It's part being "normal" to reject UFO. And there is something to it... particularly because why would they be deciding to show up only now... What's the point of playing some sightings here and there and not come talk to us already. Why have they not showed up until now?

If they pull this one off, what is going to come down to, is that when people acctually start seeing that there might acctually be something to this UFO thing, and all their conspiracy buddies were right all along, and experiecing how technology they see is so far "out-of-this-world"; that will simply make them ASK EVEN MORE QUESTIONS! Questions are plenty already in the mind of billions in the world, and all it would take is one big questions like this and more and more people will connect even more dots. An alien invasion, friendly or not, will just trigger people to ask more questions about everything.

I'm sure many of you researchers out there can agree on this. There was one question, or one thing you found out, that lead you into asking more questions, and finding more answers, which led to more questions... lol

All that Fulham had to do was mention Global Warming. That alone makes any of his statements lose all and any credibility. There is no way back.. The more stuff they come up, the more exposed they would be.

They will need to switch the Internet off for once and for all (which they can't), or become nice people, admit to everything, and make life better for everyone. What a catch 22!

I don't post or even care to write much. I just watch. I believe in God, and that's enough for me. Thanks.

It appears that your Council of 1000 is in competition with the Council of 8. "From our point of view it seems increasingly evident that the NASA moon landings were a hoax" and "Orson Welles apparently mentioned at some point that his famous War of the Worlds broadcast had "sponsors."" are as weak if not more so than Council of 8 claims.

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Here is an (updated) feedback reply - below - we have published before regarding the apparent NASA moon hoax. Its most salient feature is the absolute contrast between NASA's ordinary, murderous bumbling and the spotless "success" of the Apollo missions.

Also, there is the issue of the cameras - and how astronauts managed to take photos every 15 seconds, a seemingly impossible circumstance. Also plenty of professional photographers have suspicions about the composition and professionalism of the snapshots.

Then there are the issues of "panorama" photos which seem, in some instances to have been put together with dolls (!) (see Youtube) and the strange rhetoric used by the astronauts, which seem to be euphemisms for various stage directions (see Youtube). Also the "glints" above the astronauts that seem to show wires (see Youtube). On and on it goes.

You may choose to believe that the astronauts, after going no more than a few hundred miles out into space, suddenly traveled 500,000 miles in a round trip to the moon and back six times flawlessly, and then never did so again. We are not so sure.

Please, you are welcome to explain how such thing could happen. There are literally hundreds of explosions and mangled missions in NASA's history but for two glorious years, NOTHING WENT WRONG (or nothing the intrepid astronauts themselves couldn't fix with sticky tape and an old sock (literally).

And take a look at the insane Apollo 11 press conference while you are it (see Youtube). Neil Armstrong looks like he wants to commit suicide. The other two look like they are attending a wake. It is the single strangest public event we've ever seen after what is supposedly humankind's greatest achievement.

Here's our previous, updated feedback reply ....

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Even leaving aside the anomalies involved in the moon landing, this is an enterprise that was announced by Jack Kennedy and then, eight years later, fulfilled.

In retrospect, as we concentrate our tiny minds on it, we realize there is NO single government program in the history of the world that ever accomplished such a feat. Ever. Eight years to build a system that took man to the moon and back again. With computer power in total that was less than a single laptop computer.

And during the same period, a similar program with different objectives scored a launch-success rate around 50 percent. But for these six moon missions, not a single thing went wrong - or not terminally so. Fairly minor glitches. A magnificent success from a bureaucracy that loses US$2 trillion at a time (see Rumsfeld's speech the day before 9/11).

So many anomalies are pouring onto the 'Net, the debunkers (of the crazy moon hoaxers) will soon have to write rebuttals the size of dictionaries, with thousands of entries. And so long as we are on the subject, someone in the moon hoax crowd figured out that with the plethora of available photos, the astronauts would have ended up taking one photo every fifteen seconds, absent assigned tasks.

Here is a good moon hoax site, regardless of the "alien-base" video revelation that one might be apt to skip over ...

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And here is the track record of various moon missions from Wiki Answers Click to view link. It doesn't even include the myriad troubles with the more modern space shuttle ...

Apollo 11 landed 20 July 1969
Apollo 12 landed 19 November 1969
Apollo 14 landed 5 February 1971
Apollo 15 landed 30 July 1971
Apollo 16 landed 20 April 1972
Apollo 17 landed 11 December 1972

Perfect!

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* Ranger 1 (USA) 23 August 1961. Failed to leave earth orbit, reentered 29 August 1961. It was intended to go into a 60,000 km by 1,100,000 km test orbit.

* Ranger 2 (USA) 18 November 1961. Failed to leave earth orbit, reentered 20 November 1961. A deep space trajectory was planned.

* Ranger 3 (USA) 26 January 1962. Intended to hit the moon. Missed by 36,800 km on 28 January 1962. Now in heliocentric orbit.

* Ranger 4 (USA) 23 April 1962. Impacted the moon on 26 April 1962. Failure because transmissions failed shortly after liftoff.

* Ranger 5 (USA) 18 October 1962. This was an intended impact mission. Failure because transmission failed soon after liftoff, missed the moon by 725 km. Still in a solar orbit.

* Ranger 6 (USA) 30 January 1964. Impacted moon 2 February 1964 on the eastern edge of Mare Tranquillitatis (Sea of Tranquility), but cameras did not work.

* Lunar Orbiter 1 (USA) 10 August 1966. Went into lunar orbit, took photos of the far side. One camera did malfunction. Impacted moon on command 29 October 1966.

* Surveyor 2 (USA) 20 September 1966. Soft landing was intended, but during a midcourse correction, one vernier engine failed to ignite causing the craft to tumble. It impacted on the moon

* Surveyor 4 (USA) 14 July 1967. Soft landing failed, impacted the moon when signals were lost about 2.5 minutes before touchdown.

* Surveyor 6 (USA) 7 November 1967 Soft landing achieved 10 November 1967. Later made an 2.5 meter jump to enable photos to be taken of its prior location. The spacecraft was shut down for the lunar night on 24 November 1967. Contact was again made 14 December 1967, but no useful data was received.

* Clementine (USA) 25 January 1994. Went into lunar orbit and spent over 2 months mapping the lunar surface. The next phase of the mission was to do a flyby of a near Earth asteroid but failed due to an onboard malfunction of thrusters.

Not so perfect ...