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Fundamentalist Islam Next for Libya?
In his latest remarks, embattled Libyan leader Col. Moammar Gadhafi blamed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden for the uprising in his country, hours after pro-government forces attacked a mosque in the city of Zawiya, killing at least 15 people and wounding 150 others. During his comments, which were made to state television over the phone on Thursday, Gadhafi said the protesters are "loyal to bin Laden." He claimed the terrorist group was placing "hallucinogenic pills" to teenagers in their morning coffee and besieged parents to keep better control of their teenage children. "This is al Qaeda and the whole world is fighting," Gadhafi said. "You have no reason not to enjoy a peaceful life, get control of your children, keep them at home. Those young teenagers, they are carrying machine guns and they feel trigger happy." – CTV
Dominant Social Theme: The revolutions are surprising because they are so spontaneous.
Free-Market Analysis: Is the West setting up Islamic enemies in the Middle East? We've written articles about it, and we can see in this one excerpted above; Col. Moammar Gadhafi's rhetoric may mimic the West's strategies. There is no evidence that bin Laden is alive, yet Gadhafi is trotting out this tired old promotion to place his actions in a more logical context. He is fighting to put down the rebellion because if he does not, Libya will be overcome with Islamic fundamentalism. It is exactly the same sort of rhetorical strategy that the Anglo-American power elites have used to impose its increasingly authoritarian structures on Western societies.
By invading Iraq in 2003, it was thought that the US would usher in an era of democracy in the Arab world, but the unrest is just showing that this was an unrealistic expectation. The invasion was not "liberation" for many but toppled Iraq into a bloody civil war that is still being played out. People are angry over a lack of life basics such as food and electricity and even more so with the visible corruption of local officials supported by US dollars. Doesn't Western-style regulatory democracy sound great?
The current revolts are managing to topple tyrants, but the question is whether these changes will be lasting. What if they turn out to be something less revolutionary, more like a rearrangement of the furniture than a complete makeover? In this article, we will return to the theme that in many ways the current crop of color revolutions are manipulated ones, taking advantage of the understandable frustration of the people in the Middle East.
When Gadhafi blames bin Laden for the unrest, he is making a statement that is at least 50 percent correct. Yes he may be correct in some of his surmises, but not for the reasons he is implying. Libya would probably not go down the path of Muslim fundamentalism on its own, however, with a helping hand from Western powers-that-be to support its emergence, there is a good chance they might.
As we've been arguing, and continue to argue today, the Anglosphere may be setting up a kind of Islamic crescent that it can use to create a more formidable enemy. Al Qaeda, with 12 warriors left in Afghanistan simply isn't doing the trick. The Western elites need war, in our opinion, or at least a more formidable enemy. The entire central banking paradigm is collapsing worldwide and – just as in 1940 – a period of chaos is necessary to obscure its disintegration. As an added bonus (from the West's point of view) Russia may be destabilized as well by onrushing Islamic fundamentalism.
And yet ... from our point of view there may now be too many who understand either partially or fully the depths of deviousness in the world today for these sorts of manipulations to work. It is an organized evil in our view that seems to go back thousands of years. But in the modern era, its presence has been dissected as never before. The only comparison to what is going on now would be during the era of the Gutenberg press and the elite responded with similar manipulations. We have argued it took the Anglosphere some 300 years to recover from the dissemination of knowledge caused by the press. And in order to control that explosion of knowledge, the Anglosphere was forced to fracture its own power base and encourage controlled chaos, much as is happening now.
This is generally a very important story, maybe the most important story in the world today. The Anglosphere has put in motion, or so it seems, a worldwide revolution. In a shocking article not long ago, the UK Telegraph pointed out that US intel had been training Egyptian youth groups in techniques of revolution for some two years if not longer. Meanwhile, the US State Department, along with certain powerful industrial entrepreneurs launched AYM, some three years ago. Wired magazine described it as "a youth organization [offering education] about using online tools to promote their extraordinary range of social movements and promote non-violent change."
Leaving aside the issue of the corrupt Middle East regimes themselves, the arrogance of presuming that one can foment revolution at will is fairly astounding. The Anglo-American power-elite is not as in-control of events as it was in the 20th century. Then the Anglosphere could start wars and manipulate nations and money with impunity and there was no alternative media to cast doubt on the official story. Today, the blogosphere is alive with speculation about the power-elite, its machinations and goals. The Western elites continue to act as if they are undetectable and are moving around cloaked in a veil of secrecy that has actually been stripped away. It's almost a form of self-delusion and makes us believe (as we concluded long ago) that the elite has certain strategies that it uses over and over again and is not entirely flexible when it comes to surmounting new or unexpected challenges like the Internet.
Just yesterday, a feedbacker sent us a brilliant, short analysis of how the elite manipulates these great social changes. We are well aware that the Venetian banking elite of the day likely aided Martin Luther's Protestantism revolution to split the Catholic church. They may have funded other such efforts as well. The feedbacker pointed out that Cromwell's hyper-Puritan regime in Britain was very similar to the advent of Wahhabism in the Middle East. It is no coincidence that Wahhabism comes out of Saudi Arabia, a country the Anglosphere invented, funded and continues to prop up.
Another feedbacker pointed out that the CFR's Walter Russell Mead may have been responsible for the original insight. He enclosed the following quote about Mead's perspective: "Mead draws sharp analogies between the 16th and 17th century Protestant fundamentalists like the Lutherans, Calvinists and Puritans and the Muslim Wahhabi and Salafist fundamentalists of today."
Certainly, Wahhabism, like Puritanism, is an authoritarian form of Islam. Theocratical Wahhabism, with its emphasis on amputations, killing homosexuals and stoning women for being raped is almost being positioned as a kind of anti-Christianity. In a sense it is like Cromwell's fundamentalist Puritanism. We see the Western elite's fine hand in its creation and dissemination. How do you deal with an outbreak of freedom? You provide an alternative that may be in some cases worse – especially when it is imposed as a theocracy.
For this reason, more and more we come to the conclusion that it is Wahhabism Western elites have planned for the Middle East. In fact, Wahhabism in its theocratic forms can act as a military adversary to the West. Gradually, Western-based Mullahs are infiltrating their countries of origin. In Tunisia, Rachid Ghannouchi has returned from England to reorganize his once-banned Islamist party, al-Nahda; In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood is now being fronted apparently by famous Islamic scholar Yusuf al-Qaradawi. He is considered one of Islam's top scholars and reaches some 40 million people a week through his Al Jazeera satellite television program. Can all this be coincidence? Here's how we summed it up in a previous Bell article:
Like Gannouchi, Qaradawi has been in exile, only not in Britain. Qaradawi settled in Qatar, a tiny country that is one of the Anglosphere's closest allies in the Middle East. When the Bush Administration launched their initial attack against Iraq, Qatar provided a staging ground. And Qatar is where Al Jazeera was funded and hatched. Most believe Al Jazeera to be a "radical" Islamic news agency but Qatar's Emir was literally plopped on the throne by the Anglosphere and its money still funds the news network, which was populated initially by a group of BBC reporters out of Saudi Arabia.
In both of these cases then, we begin to see a pattern. The West tends to facilitate its enemies. France and Germany coddled Lenin and then sent him back to Russia with funding. Soon the White Russians were defeated and the march of Communism began. The West – especially New York banks and the Bush family (that Bush family) – funded Hitler's rise and invested heavily in Germany's pre-war economic miracle.
Fast forward to the Iranian revolution. As we have pointed out many times, there is no doubt America under Jimmy Carter destabilized the secular regime of the Shah of Iran. And not much later, Ruhollah Khomeini, who had been stored in France (shades of Lenin), was flown back to Iran, complaining to reporters all the while about how much he disliked Iran and Iranians. Khomeini's father is reported to have been British intelligence.
In our article, Western Elites Secretly Still Building Islam, we noted similar patterns that extended throughout the Middle East and Africa. We pointed out that in the Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire), the West was supporting Alassane Ouattara, a Muslim over Laurent Gbagbo, a Christian. In Sudan, the West supported a referendum that has split the North from the South. Northern president Omar al-Bashir now plans a Sharia state. And of course during the War in Kosova, the West backed Albanian Muslims over Serbian Christians.
In another recent article, we suggested that Western elites were setting up George Orwell's 1984, complete with an Islamic enemy and Asian enemy (China). "A 'long war' of this sort [we wrote] could eventually resolve itself into the longed-for New World Order as these three regions propel their struggle into exhaustion. From chaos ... order. We wouldn't have presented such a scenario earlier this year, but the apparent ambition of Western elites to create color revolutions all over the world has considerably expanded our sense of what they believe is possible – and reasons why they might promote such an ambitious undertaking."
We have doubts that these color revolutions are what they seem to be. As in the past, the West is encouraging the "youth" behind them and providing funding (even signage according to some reports!) to ensure that they go forward. We see many parallels in this environment to the advent of the Gutenberg press and how banking elites of the day fought back by shattering and then attempting to remake civil society.
To us, these color revolutions appear to support dominant social themes that have historically spawned from the centers of the power elite's global architecture, including the United Nations, World Bank, World Trade Organization and World Health Organization. The themes are then rebroadcast by the mainstream media. The United Nations, being a leading example of an authority-based solution to a problem proposed by a dominant social theme, is undoubtedly earmarked to "save the day" and provide an international solution to international conflict, including war. The solution is for national governments to be made subject to their worldwide authority.
What is also clear to us though, is that despite the elite's best efforts, control of society slipped away during Gutenberg era and was not re-established until well after the American civil war. The 20th century in our view was a true Dark Age, but because of the Internet and its dissemination of alternative truths and paradigms, we tend to believe the Anglosphere is going to have a difficult time with its dominant social themes this time around. That goes for the imposition of fundamentalist Islam and the ratcheting up of the war on terror to include whole countries. Renaissance anyone?
Col. Moammar Gadhafi may have been correct to warn about the creation of an Islamic state in Lybia, but he certainly attributed that potential outcome to the wrong individual. It will not be bin Laden but Western powers who are apparently busy building these sociopolitical reconfigurations so as to heighten tensions in the world and create friction and even conflict between a resurgent Middle East and the West.
This is in our view the response to a failed monetary system. The solution planned, just as it was in World War II. In this case, a UN supra-gov and a supra-central bank with a single currency – the bancor? The populace is to be promoted on the idea that the collapse of the financial/monetary system is due to ongoing global conflict. The solution is global government.
These trends are not noticed merely in the West, however, or enunciated within the alternative blogosphere. Increasingly there is a perception within the Middle East itself about these issues that is quite sophisticated. The Islamic-oriented World Future website carries a recent analysis that includes the following: "Nothing in the events taking place in the Middle East and North Africa suggest a 'genuine' revolution led by angry people is underway in the Islamic world." And the article adds:
... To call the events in the Middle East 'revolutions' is a bit too hasty. Revolts do not end with the leaders fleeing or residing in their lavish homes after they fell. Revolutions are moments where the crowd grabs the culprit and cull him or her in public. It happened in Italy when they finished off Benito Musolini and to Nicolae Ceausescu in Hungary where he was killed by the angry crowds. The great possibility is that at the end of these convulsions in the Middle East, the American empire will be stronger and its control of the Middle East and the Arab world more than certain. The 'Islamic' agenda will be far behind and the young leaders of the 'democracy' movements will become the new 'tyrants' at the behest of Washington, suppressing the same freedom the people thought they fought for!
Conclusion: While World Future does not seem to orient its analysis around faux-fundamentalism as we have, the thrust is somewhat the same. If those in the Middle East can identify the essential "managed" nature of what is going on today, this surely does not bode well for the puppet masters. The Bell's singular contribution to the alternative blogosphere is the perception that the Internet itself is a danger to these manipulations and cuts both ways. Let us see if these color revolutions are truly manageable or if they give rise to all sorts of complications as they have in the past when the Anglosphere tries to play its "great game."
Posted by Abul-husayn on 03/02/11 01:40 AM
"There is no human solution to ordinary mankind's servitude to the monied elites of the world or to human governments without a change in human nature which God alone can do!"
Simple restoration of human nature would be sufficient to establish universal liberty, and that is within the capacity of anyone of mankind who asks God's help in that. It's not a matter of "can" or "can't," it's a matter of desire and commitment.
Posted by Isabelo S. Alcordo, Ph.D. on 03/01/11 06:03 PM
Rumors swirling: The U.S. gov't is planning to confiscate gold
Friday, February 25, 2011
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Editor: "There is a plan to use the IMF (AKA US Treasury and Wall Street) to be the front man for the new world order and one currency.We also got disturbing news yesterday from an impeccable source that when gold touches $2,000 it's confiscated in the USA for about $200. Then it's to be reissued by the Treasury for $10,000 per ounce to back the new IMF world currency using SDRS in 2011. Large physical gold is being moved to Canada."
Earlier, I posted this confiscation and inflation of the price of gold as an INEVITABLE consequence of any shift from fiat money to the god standards:
Posted by Isabelo S. Alcordo, Ph.D. on 2/26/2011 9:27:01 AM
The suggested shift from fiat money to precious metal standards for world currency raises the following questions:
1) Are there enough gold or precious metals to back up the trillions worth of paper money that need to be printed to facilitate international trade at the current prices of these precious metals?
2) If there is none, would this not, by necessity, require the upgrading/bloating of the value per ounce of these metals as many times their present prices as needed to cover the values of paper money required for international trade?
3) If there is, would private hoarders of these precious metals willing to sell them to national governments without a bidding war, again bloating the prices of these metals sky-high, or to sell them to an international monetary body (IMB), created for this purpose, at market price?
4) If not, should the international community, by international law, declare the hoarding of these resources illegal to force their owners to sell them to this IMB or to open the way for their confiscation?
5) Either way, we end up with the same monied elites with more money than before or an international governmental system more oppressive than the one we wanted to eliminate, or both.
6) Finally, how will this IMB allocate these precious metals to the more than 200 nations?
Again, there is no human solution to ordinary mankind's servitude to the monied elites of the world or to human governments without a change in human nature which God alone can do!
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Posted by Leonardo Pisano on 03/01/11 05:35 AM
Here is an interesting link: which countries depend most on oil imports from Libya? Indeed, the PIIGS....
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Posted by Reader on 02/28/11 09:17 AM
I Answer to your question: Is the West setting up Islamic enemies in the Middle East? My short answer, NO. If the west is so self-confident as to sweep these nations governments away to some premeditated western plan, I warn the west had better watch out because none of their plans have succeeded especially in the recent period.
As evidence, I can cite the Shia Government in Iraq and the Hezbollah Resistance Organization that defeated the Zionist entity as the 2 most obvious cases of western failure. For the west, their best laid plans have blown up in their faces. I suspect it will be no different this time under any scenario.
Posted by ISA on 02/28/11 02:03 AM
Abul-husayn to AmanfromMars:
I second your motion.
Posted by Abul-husayn on 02/28/11 01:13 AM
I find your posts increasingly difficult to decipher, recognizing only a "term of art" here and there, while most that you use are obscurities. For the sake of this culturally illiterate reader, do you think you could use a little common language to that those of us not "in" with your jargon can discern what points you're raising for our consideration?
Posted by AmanfromMars on 02/28/11 12:25 AM
There is much that we do not disagree on, however, do you not see the fundamental difference/polar opposite positions in "dictate to the monied and the politically powerful how to use their wealth and power" and "work with and show them another way in which their passions can be put to better and more bountiful use, is SMARTer ProgramMING"?
One is chalk, the other is cheese. Do you know anything of the workings of GCHEESE ..... h
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or is IT a QuITe Sublime Alien Project? IT is, is it, one of those Quantum Internetworking Technology SAPs to capture Hearts and Minds and Souls and MkUltraSensitive ProgramMING for Global Operating Devices at Work, REST and Play.?!
Are you in the Need to Know Know, and Au Fait with Higher Definition Futures and ITs Virtual Derivative ZerodDay Trading Platforms/BasedD Space Stations? Which is quite a revolutionary humanoid phorm advance in the evolution of contemplative cave dwellers, is it not?
And what of D, and the course it charts and plots? Boldly going where no man has gone before? :-) .....
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although hearts and minds and souls and Agent Weebley and Friends on a Rocket Man Ship and Slow Boat to China have never left the place by all accounts.
And thus is it with IT, a Prepared Domain for SMART Colonisation and Virtual Population.
Silicon Valley ...... you are Hacked? And when it is so, are Windows Catastrophically Expensive to Replace in Obscure and Obfuscating Denial, but an Absolute Bargain to Upgrade with NEUKlearer Armoured Transparent Glazing. The Free Choice is Yours to Make and Take ...... but Ours to Reward and/or Punish Aptly and Thoroughly, right down to the very Heart of the Core Source.
Posted by ISA on 02/27/11 10:02 PM
"Is to lead, rather than follow, servitude, ISA?"
Defnitely not! But who is "amanfrommars" to lead or dictate on the monied elites as to how to use their money?
"And methinks that any who think that change/doing things better is a bottom up process rather than top down project, .... for top down effortlessly has all monies and global resources immediately available for provision of one's needs, for everyone's feeds ..... are doomed to struggle and fail to achieve anything of note."
I agree, that is why I call on the monied elites and the politically powerfull, in the NAME OF GOD, to use their money and power to the furtherance of GOD'S WILL – which is for them to use their resources to help the poor lift themselves from poverty – not as masters but as SERVANTS of the ONE INFINITE GOD, Who is unkowable, unseeable, and incomprehensible but Who mercifully revealed to the prophets of JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, AND ISLAM His REALITY and NATURE to and WILL for humankind.
Thus, Mk 10:42-45: "You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. 43 Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 44 and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many." NIV
"To battle against a monied elite rather than work with and show them another way in which their passions can be put to better and more bountiful use, is SMARTer ProgramMING,"
Again, I agree. But again who is AmanfromMars or ISA to dictate to the monied and the politically powerful how to use their wealth and power? Only GOD can, through the leading of His Holy Spirit (God's personified Creative Power), not the churches, which like you with your "SMARTer ProgramMING," are also trying to manipulate them for their own worldy purpose.
As to the ineptitude of governments to solve mankind's problems, I fully agree with you.
The vicious circle of our imprisonment is squeezing us tighter and tighter, and only our faith in God allows mankind to bear the pains . . . until there is a change in the hearts and minds of the monied elites . . . or until Christ Jesus comes!
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Posted by Qwerty on 02/27/11 09:39 PM
Ha, Ceausescu was in Romania and was killed by second wave or Russian activists to follow him to Romania's governing.
It this any kind of credible article?
Posted by Bob on 02/27/11 09:15 PM
@ Posted by Memehunter on 2/26/2011 3:44:12 AM
Regarding the Holocaust, you wrote:
1. "My mother is Jewish and my grandfather as well as several other male relatives died during World War II. However, to be fair, we don't know what really happened to them (according to my mom) " they simply disappeared."
As I have mentioned in my earlier DB posts, attending an university in America, I was renting rooms off the university campus. The area was heavily populated by Jewish emigrants from Eastern Europe.
Specifically, my first landlady was a Jewish immigrant from Hungry and another landlord was a Jewish immigrant from Prague, Czech Republic. These people did not know each other and never met. They both told me that they have survived the WWII German/Nazi occupation and they both lost most of their families during the occupation but they did not know what did really happen. One more thing: they both told me stories that Nazi policies were antisemitic but I never heard a word "Holocaust" from them.
2. "Familial anecdotes aside, I obviously have personal reasons to believe that some Jews died during WWII, but the "6 million" figure appears out of nowhere and is not substantiated. I am also not convinced about the gas chambers."
Ilya Ehrenburg was the chief of the Stalin propaganda machine during 1940s. He also was a Jew.
- In 1944, he was part of the Soviet government (so-called Burdenko commission ), which concluded that Germans/Nazi were responsible for the Katyn massacre of Polish POW. It was a lie like everything else in Soviet and Stalin propaganda. He knew it and he lied.
- On Aug. 11, 1944, he stated that Nazi killed 6 millions Jews. It was almost one years before the German surrender. How did he know the number of the Holocaust victims 1 year in advance? It is of interest that most of European Jews were transported to Nazi concentration camps between July 1944 and March 1945.
- As for Nazi concentration gas chambers, they ALL happened to be in the Soviet occupation zone. Soviets have never bothered to show these gas chambers to anybody. As a matter of fact, gas extermination chambers were invented by a Soviet Jewish scientist Dr. Borg.
Soviets extensively used these gas extermination chambers in 1920s. Soviets killed tens of thousands but communists needed to kill millions and gas extermination chambers were not suited for this. So, Soviets abandoned gas extermination chambers. Instead, Soviets shot and starved (mostly starved) to death ~40 millions people in Siberians concentration camps and during the Ukrainian "Golodomor" in 1932-33*.
3. "according to some researchers, up to 150,000 Jews in the SS, I think that the issue is very confused, to say the least."
Correction, up to 150,000 Jews have served in the SS and Wehrmacht.
* The Holodomor was a man-made famine in the Ukrainian SSR, part of the Soviet famine of 1932'1933. During the famine, which is also known as the "terror-famine in Ukraine" and "famine-genocide in Ukraine", millions of Ukrainians died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history.
Early estimates of the death toll by scholars and government officials varied greatly; anywhere from 1.5 to 12 million ethnic Ukrainians were said to have been killed as a result of the famine. Recent research has since narrowed the estimates to between 2.4 and 4 million deaths inside Ukraine, and up to 5 million if about 1 million deaths in heavily Ukrainian-populated Kuban are included. The demographic deficit caused by unborn or unrecorded births is said to be as high as 6 million.
Posted by Jeannie Queenie on 02/27/11 05:21 PM
Amanfromars....thanks for the link to Zerohedge. I had forgotten about that terrific site, hadn't visited it in weeks. This informative article shows what we can expect in the near future, especially if Big Ben Bernanke follows through with QE3, a distinct possibility I heard on this morning news. We all know what happens then..that buck, now ten cents, becomes a nickel.
With 43 million americans now on food stamps, with commercial and residential foreclosures set to beat last years record, with states running out of monies and the feds cannot help them, but simpering state employees continue to rant they want their Maypo all meanwhile other americans see them as leeches of private sector workers...with our SW borders a veritable war zone replete with not just murderous drug thugs of Latino background, but the growing band of Brazilian, Guatamalen cartels dancing alongside Al Queda all competing to destroy american brains via psychotropic drugs......with gasoline expected to be at $5 this summer, food prices skyrocketing, commodities out of sight, China/India competing for food....78 million boomers coming on board for retirement, all of this heralds a deep awakening in americans that might make the riots in Greece, Egypt and elsewhere, pale in comparison. Why so?
Well for the simple reason we have the Boomers, the most privileged-entitlement-live for-today-the-hell-with-tomorrow-generations that ever were. Most of the women don't know a potato peeler from a screwdriver, and the men, well for civility's sake I won't touch that one with a ten foot pole. If thrust into live or die situation,I doubt they'd survive.
To be spoiled, pampered, entitled for most your life and living in an illusion that your 401Ks will provide a wondrous retirement living under a coconut tree as you click your broker on your laptop to buy/sell/trade your life away, all the meanwhile ignoring those ignorant old folks at home who didn't ever live like you do...oh dear, how illusory that dream was. So we see massive ignorance on the part of the Boomers aiding and abetting the present crisis--some of those very boomers are banksters!
I look around me in my neighborhood where folks bought much more home than they could afford, put in beaucoup extras like granite countertops, fake fireplaces, new cars, etc when both spouses were working. Enter one job loss, and bang, the house of cards falls. Then add in the cities where banks can't foreclose as they can't find owners paperwork, so some get to live in their house scot free and have mortgages forgiven, while John Doe next door worked his arse off for years. He now gets to view his neighbor sans mortgage living off the fat of the land. Scary scene!
But dare you speak out against any of it, you take a chance of being labeled a terrorist now. Tea partiers and others hating massive thievery alongside the fake money supply are labeled the equivalent of real time terrorists. Of course, this is done to take our eyes off the real terrorists, the ones who robbed us blind...the 13 who formed the Economic Death Squad of Wall St: one lead by none other than Hank Paulson, Tim Geithner, Ben Bernanke, Robert Rubin, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan, Lloyd Blankfein, Jamie Dimon, John Mack, Vikram Pandit, John Thain, Hank Greenberg and Ken Lewis. All played a role in presiding over the largest transfer of wealth, er, heist, in history, This, I think is what Obama meant by redistributing the wealth.
And we thought the 80's S&L crisis was bad news...a kids party compared to today. The RTC in December 1995 estimated the total US government costs for resolving the 747 failed institutions was $87.9 billion...surely paling in comparison to trillions today. So when you add in americans taking a hit on their retirement pensions--about 40-60% from '08 on, coupled with big time devalution of their homes, prices on everything going through the roof, gasoline prices escalating, our states adding on taxes on everything imaginable to offset massive debt, one can only forecast a brewing storm in the months ahead here in the US.
I would like to think that the boomers, albeit incredibly coddled for decades, could possibly show some initiative to retain all those former honorable traits and qualities the generations before exhibited that allowed the 'new brats/boomers to have the good life that none before had even dreamed of ever having.
Amanfromars, I was shocked to read on Zerohedge that the problem of hunger is far worse in the US then in Mideastern countries. The charts showing diff countries and hunger problems was most revealing. The fact that Obama hasn't been all that vociferous about happenings in Egypt, et al, gives one pause as to why he isn't. The US lame mainstream media isn't informing US citizens just how bad it really is here. 52 million here are living below the poverty line.
Not a week goes by that I don't hear on the radio that some town has layed off their police or firemen, or libraries are closed, or hospital help is laid off. In the last three years, the small town I reside in known as the antique capital of New England, has suffered three arsons of businesses or old mills...to collect from insurance you think? Let's remember always that desperate people will do desperate things.
Posted by Abul-husayn on 02/27/11 02:58 PM
"Those are the honest to goodness facts, and it is as well to be fully aware of them, rather than pussy-footing around the subject and ignoring the principal players responsible for everyone's monetary woes and fiscal difficulties. It would be a dis-service to be coy and circumspect and sycophantically deferential."
From your link: "The people of Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Morocco, Gabon, Mauritania, Yemen, Bahrain, Libya, Palestine, Iraq, Sudan and Algeria have taken to the streets en masse."
This, of course, happened "spontaneously" with no planning, no organization, no coordination, and no deliberate stimulus from any "power behind the throne." And I'm selling a beachfront surf-boarding cabana in Arizona for pennies on the dollar.
It's being televised, it's not being "blacked out" by the mainstream media. That tells you all you need to know to instill some cautionary skepticism about what's actually going on.
"While each national uprising has its own internal characteristics, each one, at its core, is about the rising costs of living and lack of financial opportunity and security. Throughout the world the situation is the same: increasing levels of unemployment and poverty, as price inflation on food and basic necessities is soaring."
That's how you stage a revolution ~ tighten the screws after discrediting the powers-that-be. It's the classic pattern, and this time it's going global.
Ordinary people ~ "The meek" who will "inherit the earth" ~ have no experience pulling the strings of coercive power. And America ~ where prophecy says resolution comes ~ has been painted over with a bull's-eye. The meek had better temper the fury of the lemmings pushing the leaders of the herd toward the cliff.
It's not possible to determine what's going on in the eastern hemisphere, but it would be a mistake to assume that it's the same as what's going on in Wisconsin. These things are not what they seem, in either case, there is a larger dimension to all of them. They can't ~ and shouldn't ~ be stopped, but they can ~ and will ~ be diverted unless the pilots on the ground realize that they haven't set their own course, but have only been blocked from any other. Egypt's "bad cop" (Mubarak, police) ~ "good cop" (army, "opposition" ministers) two-step removed the immediate threat to the power elites of Egypt. Mubarak was getting senile anyway, his televised speech showed how out of touch with reality he's become.
Local autonomy, political and economic, can survive. But it has to be built first. Administration is one thing ~ coercive "government" is quite another. If "community" ~ common unity ~ does not begin next door, it cannot be found any further away. Division of labor and specialization require administration, not predatory competition and bifurcation into power elites and powerless subjects. The collective power of a society is never wielded by all of the people, or even by a majority ~ when the mass moves, it has been moved by a few. "Power" increases when it is NOT used; using it uses it up the same way opening the floodgates of a dam drains the lake behind it.
Where are the cool heads and seasoned administrators? Which country will realize the aims of its people?
It's certainly entertaining to watch from a distance.
But excuse me, I have some legal arguments to write to defend our religious right, to provide housing for some homeless people, from the local "government" who think they have more power than they do. Turns out that so far, they have enough power to bankrupt the town with attorney fees, but not enough to get an indigent school teacher evicted ...
Posted by Abul-husayn on 02/27/11 01:57 PM
"Methinks at least three intoxications, Abul-husayn, generalized affection, the realization of power and fabulous remote control from Cloaked Networking Bases residing in Cloud Layers ..."
Thank you, I think you're right ~ the Web is interactive, unlike a book or a leaflet, and free of proximate threat, unlike contentious discussions in a coffeehouse or meeting hall. This offers genuine communion, an exchange of thoughts, and a meeting of minds in ways that previous media have not. That definitely can be intoxicating, especially for those who leave their contentious and defensive habits behind when they venture into the heavens on the Web.
"And although I would agree that it can be very, very precarious in the absence of veterans who have dealt with those influences, the fact that there are many, makes it uncannily easy for just a more canny few, to lead disproportionately well in whatever direction is needed to be seeded ... fed and watered ... nurtured."
Understanding on the nether end is still required for success.
"Live Operational Virtual Environments are remarkably Fluid and Liquid, and in XSSXXXXStreams, Seventh Heavenly too. ... ie Holy Grail 72 Virgins Territory."
"War in the Heavens" succeeds because the enemies of humanity are vanquished. That does not mean that they do not sow confusion with their habitual prostitution of language and the sciences of discontent and devolution, there will still be blood on the ground because they have, in the end, no other way to save themselves from accountability for their endless deceits but to sow discord and flee.
They know their time is up, you can see that in the panic of their rhetoric, on the Web and in the media.
But see "Guide To Events: Processing the Information Overload" at Click to view link ~ people of reason, faith and principle are predisposed to be blind to malevolent motives behind smiling faces. Credulity is not a defense against disingenuous "good counsel" that sounds good, not for those who have not experienced that singular "ring of truth" that dispels all other possibilities.
Anything that does not knock you down with its obvious and unavoidable reality should be examined with a measure of skepticism ~ perhaps it is an inept expression of truth, but more commonly it is a half-truth that misleads the listener. We all need to listen carefully to the mothers, and hear the truth of what they are saying that may not be readily apparent in the way they tell it. The motives of others must always ~ always ~ be proven by the consistency of their actions, not their words. The enemies of humanity pose as champions of liberty and build fatal flaws into the foundations of a polity ~ and those who desire to rule over others, to "serve the people," should be regarded with the understanding that "To Serve Man" is the title of a recipe book ...
Posted by AmanfromMars on 02/27/11 11:47 AM
Whenever the mob knows who is the root cause, and what is creating the problem .... Click to view link .... is a popular witch hunt and public hangings of the guilty, much more likely nowadays than another artificial war for the slaughtering of millions of innocents. Been there [too often, already] done that [its sucks, and creates problems] got the T-shirt [ and it don't fit the Future, no more]
Those are the honest to goodness facts, and it is as well to be fully aware of them, rather than pussy-footing around the subject and ignoring the principal players responsible for everyone's monetary woes and fiscal difficulties. It would be a dis-service to be coy and circumspect and sycophantically deferential.
Posted by AmanfromMars on 02/27/11 11:11 AM
"So success will bring two intoxications ~ generalized affection and the realization of power.
Very, very precarious in the absence of veterans who have dealt with those influences. I believe the first in the historical record was an Egyptian pharaoh whose celebratory party lasted about two generations." .... Posted by Abul-husayn on 2/27/2011 7:43:50 AM
Methinks at least three intoxications, Abul-husayn, generalized affection, the realization of power and fabulous remote control from Cloaked Networking Bases residing in Cloud Layers ......a SMARTer Intelligence Strata for a SMARTer Intelligence Strategy.
The Future belongs to CyberIntelAIgent Beings .... Sharing Information with Everyone Freely. Thus is Everyone transparently advised of Global Developments and Universal Virtual Forces with Immaculately Resourced Assets.
And although I would agree that it can be very, very precarious in the absence of veterans who have dealt with those influences, the fact that there are many, makes it uncannily easy for just a more canny few, to lead disproportionately well in whatever direction is needed to be seeded ..... fed and watered ..... nurtured.
Live Operational Virtual Environments are remarkably Fluid and Liquid, and in XSSXXXXStreams, Seventh Heavenly too. .... ie Holy Grail 72 Virgins Territory.
Posted by Abul-husayn on 02/27/11 08:29 AM
"You're the Melchizedek guy."
No, I'm merely informed. It didn't come easy, I paid (and pay) my dues another way.
"Well, you are a smart one, and obviously thoughtful, but your paradigm is not ours. OUR paradigm starts with the Gutenberg press and thus, given this timeline, most of the creative turmoil (Renaissance if you will) lies ahead of us not behind. You speak of the American constitutional subversion, but that was perhaps 300 years after the initial shock of a new communication medium (the Gutenberg press) and the revolution it spawned. These are FAR earlier days in our humble estimation."
History didn't start with the Gutenberg press ~ which was not the first means of mass publication, by the way, it was only the first in Europe (if it was the first in Europe, which is questionable).
Your paradigm is an element of mine. We're talking about complex interactive dynamics, not a conceptual political theory drawn from observations of a momentary interaction.
Yes, the Internet can be analogized to the Gutenberg press. And yes, democracy can function properly, which means "as theorized," only with a well-motivated, educated population.
So take a look at America, hundreds of years after Gutenberg, and a century after mandatory public education produced a population capable of being educated. Do you see a well-intentioned, educated population, or do you see bread and circuses and adventurous emperors in the Senate and other seats of power?
Perhaps the Internet ~ definitely more powerful than the printing press ~ will lead to an educated population. Or perhaps it will merely make the entertainment media more profitable with new venues of marketing, which so far it has been doing in spades.
People must want liberty in order to achieve it and preserve it. It's not enough to want "a better life for our children" or "a more humane and principled social order." "Against" is a lousy organizing principle and a foundation of sand ~ when the "enemy" is gone, temporal interests tear apart whatever is left standing. That's the lesson of Gutenberg. When the power of the Church evaporated, serfdom did not disappear. It still hasn't disappeared.
Let's look in again in five hundred years and see what "miracles" have been wrought by human ingenuity, endeavor, and devise. The only change in the human condition we've seen has come from industrialization and mass manufacturing, not Gutenberg. We're fat and happy wage slaves, not serfs of various levels of "privilege" granted by the lords of the land ~ although in America today there are certainly a lot more villeins than there were in feudal times.
I'm optimistic about the eventual outcome of the current cycle of awakening. And yes, the Internet is significant. Human history is like a river, it is not a pond in a flowery meadow. Maybe now it flows into the sea ~ or maybe not. But it certainly does not flow into the sea before surviving this current waterfall. Flowing over the edge is exhilarating and exciting, and when clear skies are visible in the forward distance, it can be joyous, even in the chaotic waters and mists below. But the journey isn't over, and we don't know what destinations people intended when they jumped on this bandwagon.
Wisconsin looks interesting. We'll see what visions are chimerical and which are realized. But it's not going to happen right this minute, and there are more influences at work than good intentions.
Posted by Abul-husayn on 02/27/11 07:43 AM
"LOVE is in the air? :-)"
So success will bring two intoxications ~ generalized affection and the realization of power.
Very, very precarious in the absence of veterans who have dealt with those influences. I believe the first in the historical record was an Egyptian pharaoh whose celebratory party lasted about two generations.
Posted by Abul-husayn on 02/27/11 07:35 AM
"And then there is the Internet, which like the Gutenberg Press before it, is causing all sorts of havoc with apparent elite plans."
The Internet is the most efficient and productive domestic intelligence apparatus ever devised. Automated surveillance of aims, ambitions, attitudes and anticipated actions that would never be found in our "persons, houses, papers and effects," and all without any need for a search warrant or army of "confidential informants" or paid snitches.
The True King ("Malik Sadiq," or "Melchizedek" in Hebrew) is not a mother who protects you from yourself, and does not prevent people from making their own lives hell ~ or, for that matter, from making the lives of others ~ who allow it ~ a hell. But on occasion, when people show a serious intention to regain their freedom, or the liberty to enjoy the freedom they have, then they may get some unseen assistance from where they would least expect it.
"We do not share your pessimism, though you have eloquently stated an evident manifestation of Anglosphere command-and-control tactics."
I'm not in the least pessimistic. Political neophytes fool themselves quite regularly, and as America's political history shows, literacy and education and modern "sophistication" have little relation to political acuity or capacity.
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. It hasn't been paid for a very long time. Maybe the Internet will provide more opportunity to pay it ~ but it is also the case that people need to know what they're looking at in order to exercise actual "vigilance," and there isn't a terrific lot of that going around.
Events in the Middle East region are being orchestrated. That doesn't mean they're not real, it merely means that the enemies of humanity can still use their usual tricks and traps to preserve their access to power. The real test will come later, when we'll see whether the victors start hunting down "the counter-revolutionaries" who oppose the excesses of the new governments.
It's entirely possible that they won't, but that would be the first time in history that newly-empowered political neophytes did not develop the paranoia of power. See the Taliban for a more recent example than the October Revolution of the Bolsheviks that overturned the liberal revolutionary Kerensky regime because ~ simply ~ it couldn't govern.
It didn't take even a generation to subvert the American Constitution, partisan elites had no difficulty at all in gaining control of the new government, and no difficulty in asserting federal power over the States, quickly divesting the people of the powers of their electoral franchise. Subversion by a foreign power through a "passionate attachment" took a little longer, but Americans are still asleep a century after that subversion made Americans subjects of another country.
I think some good will come from today's tumult. How long it will last is another question.
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You're the Melchizedek guy. Well, you are a smart one, and obviously thoughtful, but your paradigm is not ours. OUR paradigm starts with the Gutenberg press and thus, given this timeline, most of the creative turmoil (Renaissance if you will) lies ahead of us not behind. You speak of the American constitutional subversion, but that was perhaps 300 years after the initial shock of a new communication medium (the Gutenberg press) and the revolution it spawned. These are FAR earlier days in our humble estimation.
Posted by AmanfromMars on 02/27/11 07:05 AM
"Oh, but he's right. Each thinks they're right and that the others are wrong, and they're correct in that half-witted thought but have no clue about how either is right or wrong." ..... Posted by Abul-husayn on 2/27/2011 6:24:51 AM
If we all admit that we are wrong and nothing is right, logic dictates that we all start again with something new and innovative, as if writing a novel and good book, and quite different, which then cannot be wrong because it is not tested and subsequently proven to be unsuitable and discredited and in need of adjustment, which only requires the removal of that which is caused harm and damage to succeed effortlessly/smartly. Or would stupid Man complicate it with thinking of obstacles and difficulties rather than providing ideas and support?
And this is something ...... Click to view link .... which is not receiving much attention yet.
LOVE is in the air? :-)
Posted by Abul-husayn on 02/27/11 06:24 AM
"JQ, you send a long feedback making the case for your libertarian bona fides and now you send this feedback in which you seem to be making fun of Islam generally. What's that all about?"
Oh, but he's right. Each thinks they're right and that the others are wrong, and they're correct in that half-witted thought but have no clue about how either is right or wrong. As "guidance for the benefit of humanity in the straight path," they offer much but deliver little. Same as with historical Christianity's myriad fractured factions with fictional fantasies and fractional facts.
It's really very simple: when your dominion is getting shaky, and the usual primary, secondary, and tertiary control mechanisms can't reverse the trend, then you start by staging a revolution in the tertiary mechanisms, bleed off the energy, satisfy the more visceral demands for bread and comfort, and let the people convince themselves that they've done it themselves.
Simultaneous "spontaneous" uprisings all over the map?
What's good for General Motors is Good for America.
What's good about political chaos is that if you run it, you can turn it off.
Revolution is a superb method of leading the slaves to re-enslave themselves. Lincoln freed the slave owners ... and collapsed the Republic into demagoguery democracy. It worked then, it's at work now.
The irony is that it will probably turn out all right. Those orchestrating it have six thousand years of experience in rebuilding liberty when the people have not been vigilant against creeping tyranny they institute themselves, and so far, at least, everything's going according to plan.
Reply from The Daily Bell
And then there is the Internet, which like the Gutenberg Press before it, is causing all sorts of havoc with apparent elite plans. We do not share your pessimism, though you have eloquently stated an evident manifestation of Anglosphere command-and-control tactics.