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Gold Bottom Is U.S.$1,000?

Thursday, January 28, 2010 – by Staff Report

Continued strength in the US dollar is likely to be painful for investors with long gold positions, as evidenced by December's fall, and strategists contend that the potential for further US dollar strengthening is possible. However, in spite of gold's vulnerability to a stronger US dollar, we continue to believe that gold is well supported in the current environment for the following reasons: In our view, a below par recovery in the face of constrained consumer spending is more likely to continue to encourage gold investment, due to expectations that fiscal and monetary stimulus is likely to continue to fuel large government deficits and pose risks to the longer-term value of the US currency. Central banks have been supportive of the gold market as net buyers from the IMF. ... We believe the continued weakness in real interest rates continues to provide strong support to gold prices over the medium term. – UK Telegraph

Dominant Social Theme: Gold is not done?

Free-Market Analysis: Yesterday we carried a CNN article (originally appearing in Fortune a feed-backer informs us) that predicted gold would plunge to US$500. While the author of this article apparently has an affinity for finding and then metaphorically lancing bubbles, we were not surprised at the CNN affiliation. The mainstream media carries the water of the state and the state hates gold because it interferes with its money manipulations and makes central banking more difficult.

To read Why Does CNN See Gold at US$500, click here now.

Anyway, we found it a bit hard to believe that gold was going to go to US$500 anytime soon, mostly because the world's major economies are fairly troubled and gold (and silver) tend to do well in such environments. We are certainly aware that both Britain and America have recently declared their "recessions" over – and we have about as much faith in those proclamations as in Bernanke's certainty that he will be able to balance monetary policy on the head of a pin (avoiding both inflation and deflation and getting it "just right.") Here's some more from the article, excerpted above:

Safe haven buying as an alternative currency is set to continue, in our view. However gold is the only currency whose production is going down rather than up in double digits. No supply response to high gold prices is anticipated, and mine production is on a declining trend of approximately -1% per year.

Gold shares still have significant upside because:

  • The high and rising gold price. 
  • Costs have stabilised (energy and materials costs are falling). 
  • Weaker producing currencies, which further widens margins. 
  • Relative to the gold price and to their usual valuations, gold shares appear oversold.

In conclusion, we believe that gold has finally broken clear of the $700 to $1,000 per ounce range that dominated the last two years and that we are probably in the process of finding out where the new higher range will be established. We believe that the degree of investment demand is likely to force a peak that is nearer $1,300 per ounce over the next six months with $1,000 an ounce becoming the long-term floor.

We think we can make some other points as well. While high prices tend to attract hoarders who then dis-hoard, and while eventually new mines will open and old ones might reopen, significant demand is likely to outstrip demand for a relatively long time to come. There are some very big players who have indicated an appetite for continued purchases – of gold too. China especially seems somewhat disenchanted with its trillions in paper asset reserves and is said to be seeking virtually any alternative. Heck, officials recently announced that China would diversify into the Canadian loonie of all things – and we can only assume that this is actually a backdoor play on that country's abundance of commodities and precious metals.

Chinese officials have certainly indicated that they are buying the real thing whenever they can. All that is stopping the buying program is the price. Thus, the Chinese, ever savvy shoppers, are supposedly trying to buy on the dips.

Then there is India. The Indian central bank recently made a huge gold purchase of some 200 tons of gold directly from the IMF and there is no reason to believe that the country's thirst is yet quenched. It could be said – and yes it has been – that the obvious interest that China and India have in further gold purchases have put a kind of effective floor on precious metals. How low will gold, especially, go before it triggers significant Chinese or Indian buying?

You know, we are still not sure that the price of gold, even at US$1,100 has exceeded the price of gold some 30 years ago when it topped out at US$850 or so – not when adjusted for inflation. Bull markets it might be said (and this is obviously a bull market for gold and silver) are like the incoming tide. Each cycle brings the level higher, and we would imagine this would be the case once again when it comes to precious metals price performance.

Conclusion: In fairness to readers, let us make sure we add that the article we have excerpted was written by Bradley George and Daniel Sacks – co-Portfolio Managers of the Investec Global Gold Fund. Obviously, they would have a pro-gold bias, but we don't think that necessarily detracts from their arguments. They're not hiding their bylines. Hope between yesterday's analysis and today's we've presented both sides of a promising puzzle.




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  Posted by Jimi Bigbear on 01/29/10 01:44 AM

Weighing in on my own and not on behalf of Brownian Movement, I just have to point out The Bell's anti-statist/Austrian/Libertarian/Anarchist Weltanschauung rearing its ugly head again:

"The mainstream media carries the water of the state and the state hates gold because it interferes with its money manipulations and makes central banking more difficult."

The Bell knows full well that the media is owned by the Establishment - what The Bell terms the "global elite," and how can The Bell even pretend to believe that the FED is the State?

!Though it took over 100 pages into "End the FED," even Ron Paul had to let Austrian theory fall to the facts. On page 143 he writes, " . . . the worldwide elites of our day are very powerful and rich and control the central banks..." and follows up on page 150 with, "Law permits this highly secretive PRIVATE bank to create credit at will and distribute it as it sees fit." [emphasis mine]

Because we are part of arguably the most important debate in history - who owns the MONEY POWER - this is why I can't let The Bell's statement go unchallenged.

For MOST of US history, the MONEY POWER (the right to "coin" money and set the value thereof) has been in the hands of the MONEY POWER - the other use of that term - the Establishment - the Global Elite.

For the few brief periods of our history, when the MONEY POWER was in the hands of The People (via their duly elected governments,) our Nation THRIVED! The MONEY POWER as President Jackson made abundantly clear, belongs to the People, and not a nefarious cabal of banksters. It needs to be returned to us.

With two announced state governor candidates advocating State PUBLIC Banks ( Click to view link ) and a steadily growing number of State Legislatures looking into their own State Banks, I think the writing is on the wall.

People are seeing thru the ruse - seeing that the REAL "invisible hand" is the iron fist in the velvet glove of the Establishment - no matter how much that Establishment - aided in this instance by The Bell - tries to lay their "failings" at the feet of government.

Bring back the Greenbacks, the Continentals, and Franklin's TRUE fiat money - the Colonial Scrip that made pre-Revolution America the most prosperous (per capita) of any region on Earth. This is another fallacy that must stop also - calling FRN's (federal reserve notes) fiat currency!

They are NOT! They are the NOTES (debt) of the PRIVATE banking cartel - they are FAUX FIAT! They are COUNTERFEIT FIAT! And coming back around to gold, it was the gold "reserves" that the FED would hold for "us" that defeated free coinage of silver and lead US - like lambs to the slaughter - into the crucifixion of mankind on that Cross of Gold of the FED - just as Bryan tried to warn us.

The Establishment Banksters and their gold is what destroyed the longest lived and most successful TRUE FIAT currency in the world - the Tally Sticks of King Henry the 1st; Colonial Scrip, and the Greenbacks. God save us from going down that road again! Finally, how can The Bell, which has to be aware of GATA and the corrupt and criminal machinations of the Establishment banksters with regard to manipulating gold and silver prices, continue to believe that the "free market" has anything to do with the price of gold?

Reply from The Daily Bell

We are happy to hear the updates on state banking. We are on record as saying state control is likely an improvement over what we have now. We have a considered, historical point of view but we do not want to alienate our Brownian readers. We welcome further updates as regards this movement and agree that the next phase of the money debate will involve, in some sense, public money divorced from private "bankster" control.

Having said this, we would also point out that simply repeating the Federal is a private institution flies in the face of public reality. The Federal Reserve has just been through the wringer regarding Congressional reappointment of Ben Bernanke. How can you write that the Fed is entirely a private body when its leaders was almost decapitated? The Fed is a public charter, and that's a fact.

What you are trying to say, in our opinion, is that the PRIVATE REALITY is that the Fed - and the political instrumentalities surrounding it - are CONTROLLED by "banksters." This we do not doubt - we spend most of our time in fact writing about it - and there is a convenient term for this, "mercantilism" - in this case publicly enacted.

We have pointed this out as well, numerous times. Mercantilism, the use of state levers of control for private gain, is the curse of the modern world, and of the Anglo-American in particular. it is the operational method of the power elite. The only way to stop is to PARE BACK THE STATE, in our opinion, in all its manifestations.

If you, Mr. Bigbear, believe we are in favor of gold or a gold standard, you are incorrect. We do believe in free-banking (and the eventual evolution most likely of a historical private gold and silver standard within that context) - which is in a way partially a Brownian approach, absent state control. The US was founded on it, as a matter of fact.

Anyway ... we are Austrian, you are Brownian. Ms Brown interprets money history a certain way. We have been dilatory in not investigating Ms. Brown's historical evaluation more closely - but we will. It is a most important matter.

As we have pointed out before, Brownian theology in some sense complements free-market economics but mostly stands athwart its main impetus. The idea that the state, without competitive discipline, can keep money viable, long term, contradicts marginal utility, the Invisible Hand, etc. You will point out historical episodes. We will counter with arguments of Misesian economic literacy (and you really should read the great Austrians if you haven't). And on it goes.

We do think public control of money might be a step forward for now, given how terrible things are. But for the life of us, we don't see how such a system in this day and age would not eventually be corrupted, as public levers eventually will always be available for manipulation by the richest and most powerful among us.

We believe, ultimately, a private money system, which provides no hold for mercantilism - the inevitable corruption of popular government by the elite - is historically apt, necessary and eventually and hopefully inevitable. We know Ron Paul's stances very well by the way, and used to work with him regularly before he was so famous. For a comprehensive interview regarding GATA, see here:

Click to view link

  Posted by Helmut Lange on 01/28/10 10:33 PM

If your intent is to educate for the good of us all, may I suggest you solicit additional rationale about the pros of gold from Jim Sinclair (Click to view link).

He is the "King of Gold" - no one understands more about it. His website is devoted to helping the average person salvage the purchasing power of his/her dollars. And he gives it all to us for free!

To keep your site balanced, find someone else who is reputable to write a rebuttal. The subject at hand is a pending currency crisis, not investment in a commodity or a "get rich" scheme. That requires much more understanding.

After only a couple of weeks receiving it, I am now increasingly looking forward to the Daily Bell. Thank you for succinct quality.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Thanks for thinking of us.

  Posted by Ted Berthelote on 01/28/10 01:31 PM

All the more reason to own physical gold and store it prudently.

  Posted by Patrick on 01/28/10 10:19 AM

Governments change the rules all the time. In 1974 Congress restored the privilege to private citizens to own gold. Gold is a protection against fiat money. For every dramatic plunge of the price of gold; it is a time to buy at the cheap rate. One day a fellow could have amassed a fortune in gold; only to have some politico sock puppets outlaw the private ownership of gold. Dominant social theme: Possible confiscation of citizens private gold.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Can't you anticipate?

  Posted by Dave Anderson on 01/28/10 10:06 AM

It is possible that both articles are potentially right. If the world's economy experiences a deflationary collapse (the unlikely of two scenarios), then $500 gold could still be a hecuva deal. However the world's central bankers will do anything to avoid deflation, which means inflation, perhaps on a massive scale. Then who knows how high gold will go?

  Posted by Doubleguns on 01/28/10 09:18 AM

$500 gold. Yea right. Consider the source, CNN. Give me a break.

  Posted by Goldfinger on 01/28/10 08:45 AM

Only CNN could come up with such nonsense (gold going to $500.).This type of reporting (by CNN) is just further proof of how the U.S. is getting more stupid by the day.

  Posted by Yellowwhite on 01/28/10 04:42 AM

Good follow - and enjoyed yesterday's reader comments as well.

Reply from The Daily Bell

We did too.