This candidacy will self-destruct in five seconds... Texas Republican gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina imploded on the Glenn Beck (pictured left) radio program ... when she said she didn't have an opinion on whether the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks. Medina, who has literally come out of nowhere to quickly become a legitimate candidate in the Republican primary, first laughed when Beck said he had received emails from listeners saying she was a "9/11 truther." "That's the first time I've heard of that accusation," she said, not exactly denying the charge. So Beck asked her straight up: "Do you believe the government was in any way involved in the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?" Easy answer, right? Nope. "I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard," Medina replied. "There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there, so I have not taken a position on that." That answer caused a stir in the studio. Beck quickly followed up by asking her if she would disavow any of her staff if they were "9/11 truthers." "Well, you know, that's a federal issue. We're very focused on issues in Texas, on Texas state government," she said. "I'm certainly not into mind control or thought policing people. We've got a very diverse team in this state and that's because Texans are standing shoulder to shoulder to support and defend the Constitution. I frankly don't have time, you know, to go through and do psychological testing on people and know every thought or detail that they have." – Christian Science Monitor
Dominant Social Theme: Crackpots come in all colors and sizes.
Free-Market Analysis: The Glenn Beck program has provided us with an instructive lesson on the nature of modern political correctness. This article will use Beck's behavior, as related above, as a jumping-off point to analyze the term within a 21st century context – at a time when the term, in fact, is a little less popular than it used to be. Perhaps the leftwing of Anglo-American axis is less powerful than it used to be, and thus inspires less animosity, or perhaps other media concerns have become more compelling. But the point we want to make is most pertinent, we think, and much larger than points that have been made about political correctness in the recent past.
This is indeed a term that became very popular in the later 20th century and yet was in a sense indefinable except as a collection of mores that seemed vaguely leftwing. Of course back in the early 20th century political correctness was indeed a socialist and even communist preoccupation. One WISHED to be political correct to fit into those organizations. The pejorative odor came later. We looked up political correctness in Wikipedia just to see how it was defined. Here's what we found:
Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term denoting language, ideas, policies, and behavior seen as seeking to minimize social offense in gender, racial, cultural, sexual orientation, handicap, and age-related contexts. In current usage, the terms are almost exclusively pejorative, connoting "intolerant" and "intolerance" whilst the usage politically incorrect, denotes an implicitly positive self-description. Examples include the conservative Politically Incorrect Guides published by the Regnery editorial house and the television talk show Politically Incorrect. Thus, "politically incorrect" connotes language, ideas, and behavior, unconstrained by orthodoxy and the fear of giving offense.
In Marxist-Leninist and Trotskyist vocabulary, correct was the common term denoting the "appropriate party line" and the ideologic/ "correct line". Likewise in the People's Republic of China, as part of Mao's declarations on the correct handling of "non-antagonistic contradictions". MIT professor of literature Ruth Perry traces the term from Mao Zedong's Little Red Book (1964).
The New Left later re-appropriated the term political correctness as satirical self-criticism; per Debra Shultz: "Throughout the 1970s and 1980s, the New Left, feminists, and progressives . . . used their term politically correct ironically, as a guard against their own orthodoxy in social change efforts". Hence, it is a popular English usage in the underground comic book Merton of the Movement, by Bobby London, while ideologically sound, an alternative term, followed a like lexical path, appearing in Bart Dickon's satirical comic strips. Moreover, Ellen Willis says: " . . . in the early '80s, when feminists used the term political correctness, it was used to refer sarcastically to the anti-pornography movement's efforts to define a ‘feminist sexuality'."
Nobody really seems to like the idea of political correctness a whole lot. Yet it can still be argued that the term even today defines what can and cannot be argued within the "mainstream" of the Anglo-American media (and European media as well, of course). Here are issues that we would argue ARE politically correct. Beck touched on one of them in the Medina interview: US government culpability for 9/11 is NOT up for discussion. Adding to the list, we would offer the following (just for starters): That ...
Al Qaeda IS a valid international terrorist force;
Israel is NOT an aggressive and even hostile theocracy;
the Anglo-American axis is NOT an aggressive force for war in the world;
the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan WERE justified;
national defense and national security CANNOT be a part time civil responsibility;
the environment IS degrading;
public education cannot EVER be eliminated;
regulation WORKS;
government is OBVIOUSLY necessary;
public service is ALWAYS important;
the world is TERRIBLY overpopulated;
the world is on the BRINK of running out of food and water;
public/private central banking CANNOT be eliminated;
paying taxes is NEVER, finally, a waste of money;
no CORE service provided by Western governments could be done better and more efficiently in a competitive and private manner.
We've listed the above areas of "political correctness" only to prove what regular readers of the Bell already have guessed: that our impression of political correctness (in the 21st century anyway) has to do with being careful not to contradict the dominant social themes of the power elite! Until only a month or two ago, we would have added global warming to the list, but as has been amply documented, global warming is one elite promotion that seems to be dying a lingering and public death.
To return to the lead of this article, there are plenty of PUBLIC red lines that media and government proposes, and in his Medina segment, Glenn Beck was very clear about one of them – you don't question whether the American government was involved in 9/11 if you want to run for public office. What is also clear is that after Beck conducted this interview, the backlash began. Medina has apparently surged in the Texas polls and Beck himself has been excoriated for "ambushing" Medina and asking her questions about an issue irrelevant to Texas politics.
And then there is this found in the feedback queue in response to a CBSNews.com story on the Medina Beck controversy, "Debra Medina Says Comments on Glenn Beck Show about More than 9/11:"
By Judiladybug February 12, 2010 4:28 AM EST ... A VERY interesting development happened right after Debra Medina's interview with Glenn Beck. Friends from Austin, Houston, Dallas & Fort Worth began getting robo calls from not only Perry but Hutch. They started within an hour or so after the Glenn Beck radio show, guess what enlightening news they had to share? That Debra Medina was not a worthy candidate because she is a 9/11 Truther. Wow!! Isn't that interesting. How was Mr. Perry's team so ready to start a massive robo blitz with this new Truther news so quick? Looks like someone is getting scared, and that he had a little help from a friend. Some coincidences are just too coincidental to be brushed aside. I am not any more of a Truther than Ms. Medina, but I have friends that feel that certain things don't add up with the 9-11 facts and questions OB's birth certificate. Everyone has a right, not an obligation to question everything going on in our country.
Throughout the 20th century, and into the 21st, power elite promotions were so powerful, threatening and effective, that people – businesses, too, and, of course, government – carefully self censored, even when they could not explain how and why they came to their self-censoring determinations. This was the ultimate triumph of elite promotional memes – they exercised an iron-clad hold over people's imaginations and internal life. Yet of course it would be the Bell's argument that all of that may be changing now as the Internet-driven conversation continues to rapidly expand.
Conclusion: The ongoing implosion of the global warming meme is perhaps a sign of what is to come. And so is the Medina interview on the Glenn Beck radio program. We've predicted that even the 9/11 meme would eventually come under fire, along with the endless and devious justifications for various Western national security and government military industrial complexes. The idea that only big government, spending trillions on domestic spying and overseas military campaigns, can properly defend Western citizens against terror attacks is the most well funded and well promoted elite promotion of the 21st century. But even this dominant social theme may be destined for the fate of global warming. Just give it time. And Beck, too.
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Posted by Duane Bass on 2/16/2010 11:52:50 AM
I have some serious questions about the whole 911 thing, and was wondering if you guys at the Bell have investigated it in any way? If you have, is there a link to the article, as I would really love to read a well researched and exquisitely worded and well thought out synopsis of this meme (?) Is it a part of the Elitist banking cartels plan? (NWO) I read where Silverstein, the guy who owned the WTC, actually took out Terrorist insurance on the buildings, and how and why did Bldg 7 fall? I would love to be up on this subject. . .Thanks
Reply from the Daily Bell:
We have written about 9/11 on numerous occasions. We do not believe the official story. No one who investigates it could. The 9/11 Commission has disavowed parts of it as well.
Posted by Claudine Elam on 2/16/2010 12:02:00 PM
Gentlemen:9-11? I seldom watch televison but for some reason I happen to have it on the morning 9-11 happened. As I watched the buildings come down I simply said that is an inside job. I watched the puffs that came on every floor and knew it was brought down by expert demolition teams. The next thing I thought was what destructive things will the federal traitors in congress pass to destroy our CHRISTIAN CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. It sure did not take long to find out. May our precious JESUS CHRIST give each of you a wonderful day today,Claudine
Posted by Bowman on 2/16/2010 12:12:43 PM
Once Again the Bell nailed it. I was listening to the Beck radio show, when he began his interview (more like interogation)with Debra Medina, with the truther questioning, I realized immediately that he had sprung a trap and was deliberately trying to destro her as a viable candidate.
It was all so obvious and was so full of ridicule and animosity, that I actually was reviled by it. I didn't(and still don't) know anything about Debra Medino, but I did learn a lot more about Glenn beck, and that is he is not who he purports himsel to be. I have always held reservations about him, as I have about Bill Oreilly , because of their recommendation to enact a Value added tax as a means to pay off the national debt.
I believe he and Oreilly received a lot of negative feedback for that proposal. Glenn Beck is always declaring "the people should question their leaders", "speak out loudly". Obviously Mr. Beck should follow his own advice or remain quiet while others express their constitutional right to free speech and hold view points contrary to his own.
Posted by Peter M. Lutterbeck, M.D. on 2/16/2010 12:15:58 PM
Occasionally we learn that New Yorkers with increasing numbers fail to believe the government's story on 9/11. The number I believe has already reached 38 and presumably will increase with time to higher numbers. There are hundreds of construction engineers and physicists advocating that the collapse of the buildings be re-investigated, as if they ever had been investigated properly in the first case. The complete omission of what happened to Building 7 in the full 9/11 Commission Report begs such an inquiry, and neglecting to do so only fuels what more and more people are beginning to suspect.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
The Internet will not let 9/11 rest, unfortunately for those who have concocted the official story.
Posted by MSM=PC Propaganda on 2/16/2010 12:25:01 PM
Glenn Beck is fundamentally a comedian entertainer...and, for those who can still think, has no obvious allegience to the truth
His debunking of detention camps with James Meigs of Popular Mechanics and official 9/11 farce was one of the most egregious of his sudden turnaround performances, done shortly after his insistence that he could NOT debunk the camps.
Beck fans may have missed the contradictions. Now that he is trying to usurp the tea parties, more people are waking up to his tactics. We must keep in mind that Beck works for Bilderberg attendee Rupert Murdoch.
Posted by Trent on 2/16/2010 12:34:26 PM
Hey guys, Glad you took this up, this really disgusted me. Mr. Beck also was being rather rude to a girl who called in a few days later because she suggested that sarah palin is not a good representative of the tea party movement.
It's funny how Mr. Beck will argue about global warming being a farce, but if you mention that things don't add up with 9/11 he calls you a truther and implies that you are crazy! Mark my words, he's shot himself in the foot because most of the people who listen to his show would gladly read the daily bell if they knew about it, these people want the truth and glenn is berating his entire group of followers, watch his ratings fall!
Posted by TMoore on 2/16/2010 12:35:11 PM
Correct, correct, correct! This is the heart of the elite promotions, to truncate the argument before it begins. What easier way to win than to convince everyone that certain things just cannot be discussed, ever. Period. End of story.I would add universal suffrage to your list as well, perhaps a story for another time. Good work, chaps.
Posted by Patrick McDonald on 2/16/2010 12:35:40 PM
Benazir Bhutto, this lovely Lady was murdered. This is a brief documentary of Benazir Bhutto. Pakistan and Benazir Bhutto would have prevented The World Towers Bombing. There would have been No 911 if Benazir Bhutto remained in power.
She kept the terrorists in check. Benazir Bhutto said never trust a military dictator. Benazir Bhutto was for Pakistan and not against the outside world. J'ai adore Benazir Bhutto.
Like when the twin towers went down, the stock market tanked so, when Benazir Bhutto was murdered; the Pakistani stock market crashed. i remember the dynamic of markets tanking when i was walking on Saint Georges Terrance in Perth and the Headlines said;"Ike Dies." i remember as a little boy wearing an "I Like Ike" badge during Eisenhower's election to the presidency.
Big progress is being made in Pakistan. Thank God. A recent interesting twitter comment. i remember this type of physics story in Scientific American back in the 70's. Jim Al-Khalili: "I can turn lead into gold" - we should take pride in our nuclear alchemy Click to View Link
Posted by Patrick McDonald on 2/16/2010 12:48:45 PM
What difference does it make what you think is up for discussion when you censor discussion on this site?
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Who is doing that?
Posted by Jeremy on 2/16/2010 1:49:47 PM
Amazing, is it not? "Truther" is used in the derogatory. That for someone to be seeking the truth, is to be a negative.This reminds me of the Tea Party movement being referred to as "Tea Baggers". (Tea Bagging a reference to a strange sexual behavior)
Oddly enough as more and more people have signed onto the Tea Party movement, the disrespect has waned. And now more and more, I hear the people at these gatherings called Tea Partiers.
What will happen when questions regarding the events of 9/11 become less politically incorrect? Will Mr. Beck change his tune? Will being a 9/11 Truther turn out to be a positive?
Posted by Tawny on 2/16/2010 1:56:32 PM
Good list! And another good article. The smug and self-satisfied Beck is so obviously 'controlled opposition.'
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Yes, but he always hid it well. It seems the game may be up - not for his guest but for him.
Posted by DCDORIGHT on 2/16/2010 2:12:12 PM
As usually is the case, The Bell article has nailed it and the "enlightened" ones are getting it. Thanks, DR.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Thanks.
Posted by Roman Con on 2/16/2010 2:45:29 PM
If 9-11 was an inside job, then what happened to Flight 77? I ask this as part of a logical discussion and not a swipe at one side or the other. Given the arguments on both sides of the debate regarding the WTC, I have still not heard or read anything scientific on the fate of Flight 77, that hit the Pentagon.
Posted by T. Lee on 2/16/2010 3:26:43 PM
Dear Daily Bell Editors, This is a great article on political correctness and it's parent - Cultural Marxism. Thank you for acknowledging that the fall of Glen Beck's "fusion of entertainment and enlightenment" is inevitable, right along with the other "politically correct" Power Elite promotions.
Beck is a wolf in sheep's clothing, a prime example of the dangerous double speak that characterizes the mainstream media. I think a few Glen Beck quotes are a propos... "I'm a dope! I'm a radio clown! I'm a recovering alcoholic!"
"I believe so deeply in our Constitution."
"I was for the Patriot Act!"
"You know that I am actually a Libertarian at heart."
"I think the bailout is the right thing to do."
"The $700 Billion that you're hearing about now is not only, I think necessary, it is also not nearly enough!"
"The Ron Paul REVOLution is meant as a catchy slogan, but I fear some of his fringe supporters are taking the word 'revolution' too literally."
Just quoting him is confusing! May Glen Beck's "fusion of entertainment and enlightenment" (not Glen Beck himself, I wish him no harm) go the way of anthropogenic global warming, and die a lingering and pubic death.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
A well presented critique. Thanks.
Posted by Zippythepinhead on 2/16/2010 3:30:39 PM
Oh, Daily Bell you've opened a can of worms now.
The world is overpopulated? Hmm pray tell as Japan, Greece, China, UK and US are all seeing population deflation. I get it the "bad" countries are overpopulated.
Regulation works? Yeah it has such a great track record. How about enforced regulation works. Public education/central banking will always be around. I think Jesus demonstrated who these people were as he overturned their tables along with Andrew Jackson who destroyed Central Banking for almost 100 yrs. When they collapse (they will) you'll see public education go with it.
Isreal is not an aggressive force for war in the world. Click to View Link I'll let you decide on that one.
Of course you won't label me an anti-semite would you? That would be so PC. Cheers.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
In listing the various PC concepts - as we did - the ones you have commented on, we in no way endorsed them. You did understand that, didn't you?
Posted by Snowman on 2/16/2010 3:37:35 PM
Once more we see the evasive answer technique used by someone desiring a political office that sends the message that they will play ball if elected. The controversial 9/11 incident is only one of the many "incidents" that have been used to initiate an armed retaliation, or to cover up a leak or disclosure of a previous involvement. (IE: Flight 007)
We have one of the most sophisticated air tracking systems in the world. To think that a group of technically uneducated "terrorists" could circumvent the system without substantial inside guidance is only the result of a complicit government/media coverup.
The Towers were designed to prevent such an event as a plane crash. The basic laws of physics and reports from engineering firms world wide substantiate the fact that the resulting chaos was the result of complete inside knowledge and control. "False Flag" operations such as this have been used for years to further an agenda for world control.
It will probably be years before the truth will finally become known to the public and even then, only a statistically small number of the population will avail themselves of the truth. Case in point - the attack on the "USS LIBERTY" some forty years ago that is just now coming to light from some of the survivors. It appears that things are still progressing according to "Protocol".
Posted by Gunter on 2/16/2010 3:47:29 PM
Frankly, I'm a bit puzzled. From my point of view, to be politically correct would mean that one denies that one or more governments were involved in 9-11. From the exerpt I conclude that Medina does have doubts in that regard, because she states that interesting questions have been raised. Now I'm not familiar with the Texas primaries, but is there a race on about who is the most politically INcorrect? And once one is politically correct, one loses credibility? Or am I missing the point here?
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Is the race in Texas about who is the most politically correct?
Exactly! This is why Beck's attack on Medina will likely fail. The race in Texas is about many things, but the proper "official" perspective that candidates should take about 9/11 is far down the line, we would think.
Having stated this, we will take the opportunity to re-emphasize that Glenn Beck is being politically correct (hewing to a power-elite meme) by refusing to entertain questions about the improbable official story about 9/11.
Medina, within this paradigm is the "politically incorrect" one. Of course she then issued a statement denying her political incorrectness:
"'I have never been involved with the 9-11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9-11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way."
Again, we don't think this issue should matter much either way to voters. But its re-appearance in a major political campaing might be seen as bad news for the powers-that-be that are apparently getting increasingly paranoid regarding questions about 9/11.
Posted by Adrian W on 2/16/2010 5:47:17 PM
Reply from the Daily Bell:
"Yes, but he always hid it well. It seems the game may be up - not for his guest but for him."
Thank you for clarification. Glenn Beck has always been an enigma in my opinion. Riding the razor's edge on some issues. Fully pushing other agenda only to quietly slip in doublespeak at a later and forgetful moment.
He is a meter used by the Elite to measure where their 'memes' stand in the general public's eyes. He is also a subtle dissuader of the truth fogging up the mirrors. His true colors are becoming more apparent.
Posted by Stuart on 2/16/2010 8:00:35 PM
This is a very interesting article. Thanks for your insightful comments on the impact of PC and its success in getting people to self-censor. I strongly agree with this observation and have noticed this same self-censorship in myself. It is far too easy to get caught in this trap and it requires conscious effort to fight it.
I believe articles like this are critical in fighting back.The first step in resistance is awareness. It is also interesting how many of the comments referred to 9/11. Having experience in explosives both growing up (from a mining company operated by my Grandfather) and from the US military, I am convinced that there were other explosives and devices used to take down the buildings.
Aircraft damage and jet fuel fires were not sufficient to take down the buildings and certainly not symmetrically. Everything I've seen indicates a controlled demolition, which requires extensive analysis and careful planning. As for the pentagon, where are the aircraft engines and other aircraft parts?
This is similar to the Murrah building in Oklahoma. While my experience is somewhat limited, I do not believe an ANFO bomb in the street tore off the face of a steel-reinforced concrete building. ANFO is a "slow' explosive used for moving dirt and not cutting concrete. If anything, it should have pushed the face further back into the building.
Interestingly, I personally know two people who said they heard initial radio reports of "unexploded dynamite' being found in the building. Those reports quickly stopped.
Asking questions and having the conversation is critical. If the "official' story is correct, the conversation should hold no fear. If I say "I don't believe this because ' then it is pretty straight forward to say "Well, consider this ' and provide facts and details.
Any Politically Correct position against having the discussion should be considered a HUGE red flag.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Interesting observations.
Posted by Joe on 2/16/2010 8:30:46 PM
Political correctness. Government lies. Studying our nations problems. Does anyone know how to define and problem and employ a sensible solution. Let's vote COngress out. This country was built on Judeo-Christian principles. Prime Minister Howard of Australia had it right. If you don't like it our way - - - leave! As for our government, Stop the BS. The tax revolt is coming, and maybe even a revolution!
Posted by Rochelle on 2/16/2010 8:35:09 PM
Thank you so much for this article. You have hit the nail on the head once again. I met Ms. Medina last summer while attending Ron Paul's birthday party, taking the opportunity to ask her platform questions.
I also watched Mr. Beck's interview carefully and the Houston station's follow up interview with Medina. At no time have I ever believed Medina to be nothing but an HONEST person. That alone is cause for shock both in politics and the main stream media here in the States. It was disgusting that Beck decided to claim Medina said "yes" to the "truther" question when she did not.
She answered, I fully believed, honestly. In case you didn't notice, she did mention somthing vastly important regards the 911 issue that, pretending Beck was really after the "truth" his own self, America really needed to think about. Something like, the American people have not seen any evidence in support of the 911 commission. WE HAVE NOT! We have received "opinions" of a group of politicians, all feeding from the same trough.
Like the Warren Commision and their version of B.S. From watching the reruns over and over again, understanding the architecture of the Towers, noting how perfectly the buildings went down in the wealthiest area of the United States, from September 11, 2001 I have been very vocal on my feeling that the government version JUST DON'T HUNT.
But, I'm not concerned with PC. I am concerned with massive deceptions and we KNOW that has happened before. Further, I am a Texas voter and I personally got the blitz calls...also from White's daughter, no less. The good things is...they are scared of Medina and I love it. Rule of life should be to all of us:
QUESTION EVERYTHING! I love you guys.
Posted by Joseph Hudson on 2/16/2010 8:41:41 PM
Why is the government's version of 911 questioned by so many, many scientists and technically qualified people? Jesse Ventura's program "Conspiracy Theory" recently exposed it in very simple terms. Many years ago journalists were required to report facts.
Posted by Mark Y on 2/16/2010 9:11:30 PM
How about The Daily Bell putting together a cable TV show in the USA?
Maybe on a channel such as Jesse Ventura's show is on? I really believe the show would catch on like wildfire. Looking at the people you have on your editorial list as well as your contacts developed in your interviews, it would seem like you have a good start on a "production crew".
With the pathetic exhibition put on by Glenn Beck on his television show today, its painfully obvious that there is a big market for the Bell's message (otherwise why would Beck have gone out of his way to create a contrived situation in which he could twist Ms. Medina's statements into a denunciation of anyone who believes that there is a cover up of what happened in 911 as a nut!?
I also notice that the neocon web sites and talk show hosts have been going out of their way to slam Ron Paul lately. I suspect they recognize that they are losing control of "the message" and that too many people are leaving their neocon affiliation and drifting towards (heaven forbid!) real Jeffersonian Liberalism. The Bell's calm, polite manner coupled with The Actual Truth would certainly be a big hit - in more ways that one!
Reply from the Daily Bell:
We are most complimented that you would make such a suggestion. And please see tomorrow's Bell for a commentary on the very issue regarding Ron Paul that you have just written about!
Posted by Sharon on 2/16/2010 9:27:35 PM
Of all the online publications I subscribe to, this one by far has educated me the most. Thank you for your efforts.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Thanks for the kind words. We are equally educated by our readers and feedbackers.
Posted by Liberty Belle on 2/16/2010 9:28:35 PM
Great Article!
Alex Jones pointed at Beck over a year ago as an damage control for TPTB (the powers that be) looks like he was right again...Well, Lets just add 9-11 to a long, distinguished list False Flag events...here's just a few off the top of my head that preceded 9-11
Remember the Main!
The Sinking of the Lusitania
Pearl Harbor
Years later government duplicity is uncovered, so this is nothing new to TPTB. These events and the government involvement and subsequent cover ups were later rationalized as "necessary" for the greater good...always the justification relied upon by the collectivists...
Posted by John on 2/16/2010 10:05:34 PM
I somewhat doubt that any government organization would have the imagination, organizational ability to plan and execute and then cover up 9/11. I do know our governments meddling in the affairs of the ME provided the justification that motivated the madmen to kill 3000 innocents.
Posted by Mark Y on 2/16/2010 10:09:54 PM
I am serious about the Bell pursuing a television show. There is a big vacuum in which a Daily Bell Television hour would fill. Explore the possibility, please!! Hasn't Ed Griffin produced numerous videos? Hmmmm.
Posted by Michael Ponzani on 2/16/2010 10:30:53 PM
Everything you say IS true, especially about Israel. It is just a harmless little puppy which rolls over and pees on itself when threatened. Not that the Talmud says any thing negative about Balam Peor--oops--I mean Jesus H. Christ.
Nevertheless, one issue which is real for certain parts of the world e.g. China, inland desert countries, and much of the Arabian peninsula, is the acute shaortage of water. (It is not so short in the rest of the world so as to preclued it from being bottled up in plastic! (thereby using up another scarce resource) and being sold at exhorbitant prices).
What gets me the most about this business is when I see or read about another natural disaster where the water supply is contaminated and bottled water is being brought in. Why aren't stills airdropped to the people. Or else they could have "still depots".
This way they could burn all the wod waste from their previously intact houses and use the heat energy to distill potable water without waiting for the rest of the world's help to arrive. And, they would go along way towards getting rid of a lot of the debris that is endemic to these sorts of disasters.
Think of the Great Tunisami of a year or ltwo ago.While on this subject, I saw a picture of an African country which spent money for a huge bronze statue of its leader. Was it Zim Or Keynya? Anyway, there were huge piles of trash right unter the peerless leader's feet. Why don't they pile that trash up, set it on fire, have HUGE bonfire and get rid of it?!?! What, too lazy?
Posted by Hedakres on 2/17/2010 12:05:39 AM
Many people now see Glenn Beck as on the elite payroll, put there to keep the discussion under firm elitist control, with the proper outcome predetermined.The good cop-bad cop routine still lives strong. Don't fall for it, or him.
Posted by Sally Preston on 2/17/2010 6:35:17 AM
Deja vu! I listened to Beck on a lark Monday morning, after the Medina smear and was shocked to listen to his subtle message, as outlined by all the comments here. Indeed, Beck is a tool. I also listened to Limbaugh and Hannity and interestingly, both of them were talking about the damage done by 3rd parties. They named Ross Perot by name, but they did not mention Ron Paul. I wonder why? Most likely because they fear his following, who, as you outline in your 2/17/10 article, are peaceful people who DO understand what's going on.
Posted by Bill Ross on 2/17/2010 7:33:42 AM
Call a spade a spade. Political correctness is an attempt at collective intellectual lobotomy, a narrowing and diverting of discussion away from matters which elites do not want considered and into "safe" areas where our attention is diverted into conflict with others (non-elites) or, better yet, against elite enemies.
Political correctness and social sanctions against those who are "not correct" is an assault on free speech, slowly, but surely being legitimized by force of law.In other words, restricting access to facts, alternative opinions and explanations of events (there is a very large difference between a fact and opinion regarding meaning) is an attempt to construct an alternate reality, to the benefit of those who define perceptual reality and the detriment of those who believe without evidence and proof, based on misplaced trust.
How about, "Swiss banks are not safe havens for tax cheaters?"
Posted by Eric Parks on 2/17/2010 8:59:49 AM
What is it about the 9/11 'truthers that so irritates people to the point of derision for delving deeper than most into this subject? The truther movement, right or wrong, is seen as a threat to those who wish that everyone would simply trust their government implicitly. This, I suspect, is the most likely answer to the ongoing salvos.
Those who ridicule do so because a theory linking government to wrong-doings undermines the trust that is needed to advance their agendas through government force. Is it any different today than in the past when questions were raised and, rather than consider the premise, those in control of the power structure would simply deride the occasional curious thinker as blasphemous or assail his loyalty for daring to question the king?If people want to satisfy their curiosity by seeking truth, by all means let them.
I don't know whether the truthers are correct. I wish them well in their endeavors, however, and am more inclined to question the blatant resistance to their cause than doubt their beliefs. It seems to be the same old peer pressure that forces politicians and the voting public into their comfortable boxes; a favorite pastime of propaganda machines who marginalize unwanted ideologies by linking them to "unsavory" movements.
For those who fail to resist the desire for ridicule, by all means, tell me your opinion as to why the government isn't doing things just right, and then explain to me how that isn't a theory as well " conspiracy or otherwise.
Posted by Ray on 2/17/2010 11:28:01 AM
I've read the feedback from your article and believe the Dominant Social Theme: Crackpots come in all colors and sizes apply in the feedback section as well. I have decided this email newsletter is NOT any longer for me.
Albeit, I will miss reading the interesting interviews from many of your guest... and note that many do disagree with many of your positions, which is a good thingy.
Firstly, if the Bush administration actually perpetrated the Sept. 11 attacks, then the world's distrust of Islam would be largely unfounded. Correct? Secondly, some commonly claimed motives are to justify the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, leading to subsequent US control of their vast oil resources.
If so,then how many barrels per day have we(US oil companies) increased US oil reserves by being in Iraq? None I believe.
This conspiracy will fall into the JFK category and will go on ad-infinitum. Progressives do get all worked up over Beck..don't they? After a cursory look at the books, articles and Web sites, (including 911truth.org) I was able to discern the advocates' broad notion: The government knew that the 9/11 hijackers were on their way, and let them carry out the attack - even aided and abetted them.
Posted by TeresaE on 2/17/2010 12:06:52 PM
I would add one more "truth" of the power elite, Vaccinations always result in better health. My friends' pastor, received his H1N1 shot last week. He is on life support today and the outlook is not good.
Posted by Patrick Perry on 2/17/2010 8:48:39 PM
I have to agree with Mark Y and in fact, who among us would not pitch in a hundred bucks to have a Daily Bell Show? Given that there are at least a million of us I think we could make it happen! One hundred million may be chicken feed to the spineless verminin Washington but it still counts as real money in these parts! What do you say gentlemen?
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Well, thanks, Mr. Perry. However, while we are doing well, we are not at one million viewers, or even near. We do have a quality readership though! See our article on Beck and O'Reilly tomorrow - an how Fox is sacrificing theirs.
Posted by Shawn on 2/17/2010 11:11:18 PM
We appreciate the Bell educating us on the possibilty that Glenn Beck is not the proponate of the right as he appears to be. The posting by MSM=PC Propaganda brings up a very good point about Glenn Beck's relationship with Rupert Murdoch. Anyone who reads the Bell knows who Rupert Murdoch is and his association with the power elite and their adgenda. Glenn Beck does bring up good points but personally I will be keeping my eye on what the Daily Bell has to say about Beck's future ranting.
Posted by Ht on 2/18/2010 1:03:23 PM
No offense, but I think you're a bit off your rocker on this. And, for the record, I'm a big fan of your site.The issue - to which you usually adhere to admirably - is "what is true". Sometimes, we might as well settle for "what might be true", getting as close as we can.
Your various missives regarding FOX et. al. seem to miss (or ignore) the real possibility that they are merely one more (or a group) of blind men groping a rather large elephant....doing so rather more adroitly than some others we might mention.
That the various FOX contributors (and owner) have a point of view is undeniably true, as it is with the more disoriented associates of MSNBC. But, to assume that either is "obviously" taking robotic direction from cabalistic mothership is, perhaps, more than a bit paranoid.
I'll conced that various factions and interests will tend to coordinate political action, that there is, in effect, influence and even misdirection at work in the world. This is a de facto part of the landscape. Sometimes, Occam's razor serves us "truth seekers" best and most reliably.
The assumption that the various perspectives expressed in your list is evidence of a world gone mad with some sort of PC virus is simply poppycock.
None of these supposed PC items listed, for instance, are universally held by any one majority. Some of them are more true than others, but, I agree, none should be held as absolutes by anyone.
In the case of Glenn Beck, that he might draw a line regarding the credibility of the 9/11 conspiracy's....so what? He's obviously opened the door to many others. It's not that hard to believe that he simply finds the so-called "truther" theories to be less than credible.
Sometimes "a cigar is just a cigar" my friends. Don't go off the deep end.
Posted by Javawerks on 2/18/2010 5:01:29 PM
Read the study of 9/11 by the engineering department of Purdue University, the top engineering school in the US. If you do, you will understand why 9/11 truthers have no ground on which to stand.
FWIW, I'm a conservative. I served my country for 10 years in the US Navy. And I'm a libertarian, a minimalist. So take it to heart when I say your publication is flat-out scary.
No worries, this is my last visit, via dollarcollapse.com - shame on them.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Sir, we reject your allegations. You seem to be implying that we have accused the US government of some sort of direct involvement in taking down the World Trade Center on 9/11. We have done no such thing. Please point out where we stated this.
We have certainly indicated that there are serious questions about the 9/11 story as concocted and presented to the public via the 9/11 Commission report. However, that is not exactly "news" as several members of the Commission itself have written books recanting the report and in at least one instance stating the Commission was lied to at every level by the US government, the Bush administration and US intel agencies.
In fact, you seem to be unaware of statements by the 9/11 Commission regarding their failed investigations, though you claim to be a libertarian and a minimalist - and one who has investigated 9/11 for himself.
Essentially, you accuse us of something we did not report, and then inform us that - because of it - you will not read the Bell again. This strikes us as a literary version of Joseph Heller's Catch 22.
Posted by TJ on 2/19/2010 6:09:32 PM
@ Stuart:
"As for the pentagon, where are the aircraft engines and other aircraft parts?"
So.. many hours later, I am still awaiting a response to Roman Con's question: "If 9-11 was an inside job, then what happened to Flight 77? I ask this as part of a logical discussion and not a swipe at one side or the other. Given the arguments on both sides of the debate regarding the WTC, I have still not heard or read anything scientific on the fate of Flight 77, that hit the Pentagon."I too would like a reply! Why has everyone ignored this query?
Reply from the Daily Bell:
If you are addressing the question to us, we have no answer for you - nor should we.
The Bell is a free-market paper involved with economic analysis and secondarily with socio-political commentary. We are not an investigative commission, and it is not our responsibility to "solve" 9/11. We HAVE pointed out a number of times that there are many unresolved questions about 9/11, and that the questions will grow continually louder because of the Internet.
9/11 Commission participants such as attorney John Farmer have written books claiming they were lied to by the Bush administration, the military and intel community, etc. - and this, too, is problematic when it comes to closing the books on 9/11.
For national commentators like Glenn Beck to simply slam the door on further discussion while there are so many unresolved issues seems to us both unrealistic and destructive to civil comity. Given how many people according to surveys don't believe the official story, or think there were aspects left out (building 7, etc.) it might be a good idea for government to re-address outstanding issues.
At a time when so many are distrustful of government handling of the economy, etc. this might help the federal government regain at least a small measure of credibility - or at least be seen as addressing a measure of public concerns.
Here are the results of a 9/11 survey from Scripps in late 2006. We hardly think attitudes have improved in America since this survey was taken.
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Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy ...
By THOMAS HARGROVE
Scripps Howard News Service
More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.
The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.
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Bell: A third of adult Americans is probably some 60 million.
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And here is an excerpt from a review of John Farmer's book (Salem-news.com):
In John Farmer's book: "The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America's Defense on 9/11," the author builds the inescapably convincing case that the official version... is almost entirely untrue...
The 9/11 Commission now tells us that the official version of 9/11 was based on false testimony and documents and is almost entirely untrue. The details of this massive cover-up are carefully outlined in a book by John Farmer, who was the Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission.
Farmer, Dean of Rutger Universities' School of Law and former Attorney General of New Jersey, was responsible for drafting the original flawed 9/11 report.
Does Farmer have cooperation and agreement from other members of the Commission? Yes. Did they say Bush ordered 9/11? No. Do they say that the 9/11 Commission was lied to by the FBI, CIA, Whitehouse and NORAD? Yes. Is there full documentary proof of this? Yes. ...
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Bell: Was the federal government involved in 9/11? From the standpoint of covering up whatever actually happened, Dean Farmer seems to think so. The solution is to address the issues clearly and responsibly and resolve them credibly.
Posted by Mike on 2/23/2010 11:47:09 PM
Excellent analysis of the issues regarding not just Beck but political correctness itself. I always enjoy reading the Bell and find I agree with what you say far more than any other news site/blog.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Thank you.
Posted by Don on 2/24/2010 3:25:27 PM
Great article! I have watched Glenn Beck for 1 year now and in the beginning enjoyed what he had to say and agreed with his passion concerning the Founding Fathers, Constitution and all that this country has stood for.
However, I have noticed lately that he is getting to be self important, all-knowing and seems to belittle people that believe in practicing what he is always expousing..."Question with boldness".
Well his "truthers" and "birthers" are doing just that and he is attacking them. What the heck is going on with Beck? I, along with quite a few others in my circle of influence, have decided individually not to watch Beck anymore.
We all came to that conclusion separately and later when discussing matters found out that we all have the same opinion of Beck. Debra Medina is the best thing that can happen to Texas and Beck seems to have an agenda to take her down. Down with Beck!
Posted by Maverick Muse on 2/24/2010 4:07:49 PM
PC applies across the board as each special interest has its verboten opinions.Regarding candidate Medina for TX Governor, please follow up on how PC expectations exploited 9/11 to distract public attention from her platform agenda. You used her as an example of how PC plays in politics.
Follow the effects of contrasting political expectations applied against her Constitutional Conservative campaign.
Her response to Beck's outrageous question was used to smear her for respecting the obvious right of citizens to question government involvement in life, including cover ups and subsequent official progression from a perverted record. This week, Medina interviewed to agree regarding the "despicable" process to place ALL blame on the government, not the radical Jihadists, for conducting the terrorism, killing those thousands of people in NYC, DC and the field in Pennsylvania, destroying all those lives and interests and property on 9/11.
Each time she was confronted to blame someone for the horrible 9/11 terrorism, she stipulated that she had not done in-depth research, that she was not a so-called "truther" and that 9/11 has nothing to do with her agenda to empower the Constitution and rescind corrupt Texan politics in Rick Perry's administration.
Her responses each time were taken out of context by political personalities, Beck claiming Medina a radical domestic terrorist, and now Alex Jones launching a personal crusade against her campaign because his feelings got hurt because Medina's Constitutional agenda is not permeated by his 9/11 view.
What Medina believes about 9/11 has never had central prominence in her political agenda vs. radio hosts, journalists and bloggers who are all out promoting their own PC. Medina is the only candidate in the TX gubernatorial race with any respect for Libertarian value in practice to uphold our Constitutional Republic and liberty in citizenship.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
It only goes to show what we have maintained all along. That in the era of the Internet, treating 9/11 like the Kennedy assassination - ignoring it until people "move on" is not an option. 9/11 is reaching a critical mass on the Internet. Every aspect of the current "accepted" explanations have seemingly attracted questions. And the questions are coming from respectable and official quarters, including the 9/11 Commissioner themselves.
Posted by Joe on 3/13/2010 9:32:46 PM
Here is an interesting paper on the subject of 9-11. ...
Detecting Informed Trading Activities in the Options Markets by Marc Chesney, Remo Crameri, Loriano Mancini
Swiss Banking Institute
Swiss Finance Institute
University of Zurich and EPFL
December 11, 2009
Abstract ...
This paper presents a new method to detect informed trading activities in the options markets. An option trade is identified as informed when it is characterized by an unusual large increment in open interest and volume, induces large gains, and is not hedged in the stock market. For the period 1996"2006, each put option contract on 14 companies traded in the Chicago Board Options Exchange is analyzed. Our method detects several informed trades which can be associated to one of the following three events: merger and acquisition announcements, quarterly financial/earning related statements, and the terrorist attacks of September 11th.
Posted by Delbwato on 5/30/2010 9:18:19 AM
Though I've been aware of The Daily Bell (DB) for quite some time I've only recently begun to examine its content more thoroughly and find it refreshingly fair, thoughtful and familiar (fully aware that "familiar" is potentially dangerous to the discovery of truth).
However, I'm admittedly not up to speed on DB's "take" on cause and effect in world events. I agree that political correctness is a means to stifle discussion for the purpose of nudging a desired assertion or allegation into a position of "accepted truth" (a most common human endeavor). Therefore wherever loose ends exist it IS politically correct to examine, discuss and analyze them but I am as yet learning DB's rudiments and in need of further explanation on DB's PC list. For example:
Al Qaeda IS a valid international terrorist force; Islamism and its agents are not sound but when Islamist ideals can be put into effect globally then "valid international" force seems irrefutable.
The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan WERE justified;
When examining the situation strategically one sees the indispensable oil and a semi-surrounded Iran. It's a very high priority that oil flows and disruptive wars are not fomented regardless of actual competence in pursuing that end. Whether these wars constitute "just war" can be argued but when a state's life-blood is threatened war will always be justified" it's how we are.
Also, of 9/11 there remain many questions both of the official storyline and of the "truthers" storyline. But, with Beck, what is the hard tie(s), the point that elevates above mere plausibility, to the US Government being the perpetrator or instigator of the 9/11 event?
Finally, when one has identified the manipulated and potentially toxic meme that is adversely influencing the beliefs and actions of others, how does one assure that they are not still under the influence of yet another manipulated meme?
Reply from the Daily Bell:
1. We have never claimed that 9/11 was directly the work of the US government. We have written many times that the current story does not hang together - as indicated by statements by the 9/11 chief counsel that the committee was lied to by the Bush administration, Pentagon, intel agencies, etc.
2. Promotions are difficult to analyze, but there is a big difference between a power elite promotion, which consumes significant resources and others. The differences should be obvious to anyone who looks closely.
Posted by Delbwato on 5/30/2010 10:24:31 AM
To Daily Bell:
1. The article starts with the “controversy” of Beck’s question to Medina concerning US government involvement in the 9/11 attacks and her unsure response and includes Medina’s comments distancing herself from that charge. I agree that the 9/11 story doesn’t hang together but is Beck being PC when he asks about US government involvement in the 9/11 attacks when neither DB, Beck, Medina nor I find an indictable offense?
2. I understand. Egregious or malicious trumps manipulative or coercive, eh?
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