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Maybe US Wants Iran to Have the Bomb?
Obama Faces Middle East 'Train Wreck' as Iran Builds Nuclear Program ... President Obama (left) finds himself caught in a shouting match between Israel's supporters in America and critics abroad. And so much for restoring ties with the Muslim world. ... Another counterproductive consequence is one Defense Secretary Robert Gates warned about last year -- that Iran could harden its determination to build a bomb in the wake of an attack. A lengthy analysis last year by the Center for Strategic and International Studies said an Israeli- led attack "could be the beginning rather than the end of such a program." ... But it's not off the Israelis' minds, nor the Obama administration's. Dan Gillerman, former Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, told Fox News that Israel can act alone and that it's time for Obama to set an ultimatum, as well: Come clean, or "We will clean you out." – Fox News
Dominant Social Theme: A new cold (or hot) war is gaining force. How did this happen? Will the bombs drop soon or is there another plan?
Free-Market Analysis: All 1,000 of us gathered around the Bell conference table and there wasn't any room to breathe. So we scattered and a few of us decided to write this article. The rest went hiking. It is actually not our hypothesis but that of a very paranoid individual's. Call him "PI." We are not wedded to PI's hypothesis, but we present it. The meme itself is "East versus West – the Clash of Civilizations."
Many times elite promotions need actual events to shape them. Global warming, for instance, was a hard sell because it was difficult to find evidence (since it was a promotion not a reality) and therefore it became necessary to make things up. This has backfired rather badly. When it comes to war and diplomatic tensions, the parameters are simpler. This is probably why the elite prefers to manipulate events through war whenever possible.
The trouble that the elite has been running into for the past 60 years is that the wars have had to be circumscribed because of nuclear weapons. Instead of being able to galvanize world wars, the elite has had to settle for miserable regional ones. And these are not culture-changing events. They don't create the requisite chaos and allow the elite to reorganize in the manner to which they are accustomed.
Strangely enough, the Cold War was more effective in some ways in helping the power-that-be to mold society in the requisite manner than the pesky regional wars that the Anglo-American axis kept trying to incite. There is increasing evidence, for instance, that both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were on the proverbial drawing boards (PI reminds us) prior to the mysterious events of 9/11.
And PI asks the question: "What if the power elite actually wants to create another cold war to add tensions to the current war on terror?" The cold war with the Soviet Union kept Western societies in a constant state of militarization and readiness – and made populations far more malleable when it came to continued efforts at globalization, he points out.
PI reminds us that elite publications were publishing articles about the coming war between Islam and the West back in the 1970s. You can certainly find such articles in Foreign Affairs. But what if the Ayatollah Khomeini himself was part of an effort to create such a war? PI Googles information that Khomeini's father was a British agent and even that Khomeini himself may have been trained by MI5/MI6.
Further, PI reminds us that when the Shah was "removed" from Iran, it didn't take very long for France to produce a flight for Khomeini back to Iran. On the flight, PI has read, Khomeini reportedly said some nasty things about Iranians and generally didn't sound as if he was very happy about returning there. Finally, PI tells us that Khomeini apparently redrew various oil contracts in favor of the West when he arrived back in Iran – hard as that sounds to fathom. PI reminds us that he has even read reports that the "takeover" of the Iranian embassy was a Western intel operation.
We don't necessarily believe all this because PI is very paranoid person, even for someone of Swiss-German background. But he does have a theory all worked out. He thinks that the incursions into Iraq and Afghanistan were just part of a way to raise tensions in the Middle East. He believes that the current tension with Iran is more of the same. The idea is to create a cold war that can turn hot in places and keep the West on its toes. Those who wish to repress domestically always need some outside threat, and the Middle East provides a comfortable bogeyman currently.
There's more. PI points to reports that have surfaced (as feedbacker Bruce wrote to us recently) that Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's father, Peter F. Geithner, was the director of the Asia program at the Ford Foundation in New York in the 1990s. Online College World tells us that "Peter Geithner oversaw the Ford Foundation's microfinance programs in Indonesia being developed by Ann Dunham Soetoro, President Barack Obama's mother." PI believes the powers-that-be may even have hatched a plan to make Barack Obama president; and this is why Obama will never release any personal information. He believes all these events, from the Iranian revolution, to 9/11 and the resultant forays in to Afghanistan and Iraq, to the current tensions between Iran and the West are part and parcel of this larger plan as well. Like we said, he's a very paranoid person.
Anyway, he believes, in fact, that the powers-that-be may have intended to have a US president with a Muslim background and a Nobel Peace Prize at this point in time. The idea was, he believes, that the president, using his mixed heritage, would in some sense bridge the gap between East and West, emerging as a hero and problem solver – even if tensions remain. This would bring Islam further into the West's orbit while making the West more amenable to Islam. Muslims have to be Westernized if global governance is to proceed, he points out.
But something has gone wrong, PI believes, at least for the moment. The economic crisis has proven far deeper than expected as Obama's popularity has plunged. The Iranians are playing the Russians and Chinese off the West and the Internet itself has made it far more difficult to assemble and move the pieces on the "great chessboard" – because everyone is watching the game now. It's not so much fun if everyone knows.
So the whole plan has sort of backfired. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have proven intractable and increasingly unpopular and generally elite plans simply are not going according to schedule. That's PI's point of view, and it sure is an interesting one (even if it is paranoid almost to the point of illness). In aggregate we at the Bell have a hard time believing any of it. We certainly report on elite propaganda and promotions, but we have a difficulty believing that the powers-that-be have managed to plan an entire new cold war scenario and are in the midst of implementing it. It is just as likely there will be a "hot" war between the West and Iran, and soon.
PI is convinced. He believes that a Hegelian dialectic is fully in force – no matter that events are not going according to schedule. The bigger picture is still apparent to him. On one side you have grim warnings of nuclear war. On the other, you have President Barack Obama making noises (recently) about meeting with the Iranians for some sort of peace summit.
Conclusion: The dialectic and the tensions tend to distract Western citizens from financial problems and also make Muslims more amenable to Western interactions. For those who seek global governance, such strategies are necessary. That's what PI thinks anyway. We think he's "far out there" even for the Swiss-Germans. Israel and America have plans to bomb Iran back to the stone age if the leadership starts enriching uranium – and that could happen as soon as tomorrow. We give the power elite a lot of credit, but planning and creating a new cold war over a 50-year interval ... well that's a stretch. Isn't it?
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Posted by Adam on 08/21/10 04:38 PM
@Bill Ross
The ONLY lawyer I know of who attempted to argue using the "rule of law", got contempt of court...
Never argue. Ask. "Am I obliged to understand, your honor? Under whose authority am I obliged to understand, and under what law?"
I'm suggesting you decline all offers of *their* CONtracts and all invitations to *their* corporate courts.
Make your own contracts/laws. Make your own courts/dispute resolution organisations.
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disbarred...
What did this 'lawyer' think would happen?? The Law Society/BAR is for the protection of The Law Society/BAR. That is *their* law.
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Posted by Bill Ross on 08/21/10 04:36 PM
@DB: "rabid enthusiasm of mad rodents."
Priceless...
I think Francismarion's valid point regarding random / chaotic effects needs to be addressed by:
Elites are aware that their machinations / plans do not and cannot proceed with clockwork precision. They really don't care, so long as the goal of total control comes closer. They, like us, adapt and nudge. Elite machinations are a bias, altering the choices of the manipulated (carrots and sticks) in the direction that elites want them to go:
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Thanks to the internet, the manipulated are aware of the environmental control methods and the purpose / meaning of what they once (pre-internet) considered as "random factors", "crap happens" or, just plain old insane "human nature". No more, people are pushing back in an effort to retain some control over their own lives and affairs.
For the simple reason that it is now common knowledge that our "public servants" are totally out of control, dangerous, to the point of insane (behaving contrary to their own as well as our survival). This is what happens to pawns, it is their purpose, they are eminently expendable.
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Posted by John Danforth on 08/21/10 04:27 PM
@Adam;
Interesting insights. I agree that subversion of definitions and the terror of realizing your life has been wasted pursuing false values and doing unthinkable things to the people you love are probably the two biggest reasons people avoid examination of their basic premises.
I think that in order for a society to accept evil, the evil premises must be instilled during childhood, and must satisfy a childish emotional need. In my own (attempted) indoctrination, most of the pressure to conform seems to have been designed to fill a social need to belong -- or at least to not be ostracized (or beaten) by the group. Only a very few, it seems, are of a constitution to deny any group the power to define their self-worth. Teachers and parents, having grown in the same environment, consider it natural and encourage enforcement by the group. There are only a few examples in history where adults have indulged in the raw cruelty displayed daily in every schoolroom.
The few who break out are likely to be burned at the stake if they attempt to rub their fellows' noses in the obvious.
Such are the results of Social Engineering.
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Posted by Francismarion on 08/21/10 04:21 PM
Wow, DB, you really let me have it. And I had it coming. My pompous disregard of the most basic elements of style would have taxed a saint. How do you manage to research, write, edit, publish, respond to all the posts and still find time to sail on the lake? Do you ever sleep?
Sorry too for my repetitiveness. I guess I think by rephrasing something a new angle might appear. Also sorry for not reading Mises and Hayek. Right now I am busy finishing a painting for the local exhibition, planting a garden and being an internet troll.
I would though submit that I have internalized much of Jung's teachings, read Dante in the original, read and reread Livy, Gibbon, Durant and a few other notables and feel at home with Milton, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, Kafka and some of the lesser lights.
Sadly, I am not a European, but I try to make up for that defect by staring sadly at sunsets and sighing for a more compassionate world.
Before you snort, that is why the US freely protects the Chinese shipping of oil from the Middle East. It is also why the US did not castrate Russia when the USSR fell. It is also why the US suffers any Arabs or Persians to be around to remind us how inferior the West is.
Our morals are superior to the rest of the world. Our culture rules the world. Our elites direct the world. Our military controls the world. Our universities uplift the world. And I will work on that punctuation thing.
DB I am sincerely grateful for you efforts and I respect and admire you scholarship and exertions in explicating the machinations of modern politics. Please accept this gratitude from a (not so) humble fan and fellow traveller.
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"Our morals are superior to the rest of the world. Our culture rules the world. Our elites direct the world. Our military controls the world. Our universities uplift the world. And I will work on that punctuation thing."
Says it all.
chauvinism, word derived from the name of Nicolas Chauvin, a soldier of the First French Empire. Used first for a passionate admiration of Napoleon, it now expresses exaggerated and aggressive nationalism. As a social phenomenon, chauvinism is essentially modern, becoming marked in the era of acute national rivalries and imperialism beginning in the 19th cent. It has been encouraged by mass communication, originally by the cheap newspaper. Chauvinism exalts consciousness of nationality, spreads hatred of minorities and other nations, and is associated with militarism, imperialism, and racism.
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Posted by Mark Y on 08/21/10 04:18 PM
This is the same game that has been going on for well over a century which drove US General Smedley Butler to give his classic speech (later turned into a wonderful book) "War Is a Racket". It is also what drove General Eisenhower, in his final speech as president to refer to the "military industrial complex" and to state that its influence would become infused into all areas of our lives. Looking now at the obscene intrusion into our daily lives occurring due to the Patriot Act and other freedom destroying government programs, Eisenhower now looks like a prophet.
Fox Business Network actually put the genuine libertarian Judge Andrew Napolitano on every night last week and he has a regular show on that network every Saturday. Could there be such a groundswell of Jeffersonian liberalism growing in the USA that Fox is having to respond to the pressure? We can only hope!!
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"Fox Business Network actually put the genuine libertarian Judge Andrew Napolitano on every night last week and he has a regular show on that network every Saturday. Could there be such a groundswell of Jeffersonian liberalism growing in the USA that Fox is having to respond to the pressure? We can only hope!"
Bingo. We've written about this. There is so much pressure in our viwe that Murdoch et. al have had to realign the goalposts and reintroduce the libertarian conversation to retain credibility. This alone, we believe, supports our arguments in terms of elite messaging and the current difficulties.
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Posted by Boatman on 08/21/10 03:32 PM
Maybe just obozo wants them to have it ...
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Posted by Francismarion on 08/21/10 03:12 PM
How does the Daily Bell's thesis that individuals, cabals and families conspire and create memes to direct societies for their own selfish ends comport with the notion that in its largest sense, history is the progress and retrogression of nations, people, religions. ethnicities and social forces and that produce and are produced by events and revolutions greater than any man or group of men or order of men are capable of engineering; whose causes are determined by historical and geographical and human imperatives and whose outcomes are incalculable; and may hang on random events, such as an untimely death or missed train connection; and that these events and revolutions and wars ultimately redound to the benefit or detriment of the group by virtue of their own internal dynamics, regardless of the intent, aggrandizement or lack of it of any finger-on-the-globe power manipulating meme manufacturing would-be Napoleon or Rothschild?
These larger forces of history exist in conjunction with the machinations of individuals, true. But these efforts of individual mortals, however effective they may seem in the moment or a century, on the grand scale are are insignificant in the sweep of history.
True, I am much more interested in the immediate effects of government, media and business on my life and that of my nation. But the United States, by virtue of its unique birth, foundational documents and national ethos will weather any attempts at authoritarianism. It is wholly inadequate for a thesis to the contrary to examine the minute by minute evolutions of DC and NYC and conclude otherwise. This approach, for all the merits and usefulness it possesses does not take into account the individual American and the three millennia that went into his formation
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How does the Daily Bell's thesis that individuals, cabals and families conspire and create memes to direct societies for their own selfish ends comport with the notion that in its largest sense, history is the progress and retrogression of nations, people, religions. ethnicities and social forces and that produce and are produced by events and revolutions greater than any man or group of men or order of men are capable of engineering; whose causes are determined by historical and geographical and human imperatives and whose outcomes are incalculable; and may hang on random events, such as an untimely death or missed train connection; and that these events and revolutions and wars ultimately redound to the benefit or detriment of the group by virtue of their own internal dynamics, regardless of the intent, aggrandizement or lack of it of any finger-on-the-globe power manipulating meme manufacturing would-be Napoleon or Rothschild?
RESPONSE: Here is a useful symbol of punctuation. It is called a period. Definition: "period [ . ] at the end of a sentence that makes a statement. There is no space between the last letter and the period. Use one space between the period and the first letter of the next sentence." (Apply over and over as necessary.)
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These larger forces of history exist in conjunction with the machinations of individuals, true. But these efforts of individual mortals, however effective they may seem in the moment or a century, on the grand scale are are insignificant in the sweep of history.
RESPONSE: One only needs look at the US and Britain to conclude that until very recently the "sweep" of history (at least for the past century) was headed in the wrong direction.
True, I am much more interested in the immediate effects of government, media and business on my life and that of my nation. But the United States, by virtue of its unique birth, foundational documents and national ethos will weather any attempts at authoritarianism. It is wholly inadequate for a thesis to the contrary to examine the minute by minute evolutions of DC and NYC and conclude otherwise. This approach, for all the merits and usefulness it possesses does not take into account the individual American and the three millennia that went into his formation.
RESPONSE: You repeat the same points over and over as if repetition will somehow compensate for their lack observational clarity. Thus we will provide you with the answer we provided you with previously, in another post on almost exactly the same subject ... (We didn't use periods either, but that was for effect, as it is a list.)
"The global warming lie, the Peak Oil myth, the debasement of the currency, the glorification of "defensive" torture and first strikes, the military industrial complex, the prison-industrial complex, the sickening war on "drugs," the empire of 1,000 military bases, the now rising million-man spy industry and America's 16 separate spy agencies (including the inaptly named Homeland Security), the serial wars, the ever-escalating taxes and assaults on freedom, the attempts to attack and control the Internet from the bowels of the Pentagon, the cover-ups of 9/11, the corporate model of governance and emphasis on regulatory democracy -- all this gives rise to the idea that the Anglo-American axis will not rest until everyone is either in the military, serving the government in some other capacity or doing time in a penitentiary. Whatever is left the of the glories of Western free-markets, self-reliance, etc. is rapidly being eroded by the sickness of elites that pursue world governance with the rabid enthusiasm of mad rodents."
You then wrote us this:
"Posted by Francis Marion on 8/20/2010 1:12:03 PM ... Daily Bell: Thank you for a spirited and often to the point rebuttal. I have not read much of you past work. Touche. I will endeavor to be more circumspect in my characterizations of your world view. Thank you for all you do."
We hoped you would take your own advice, and still do. Go to the Mises blog and read back articles contained therein. Read Mises' great works, Human Action and Socialism. Read Hayek's Road to Serfdom. Educate yourself about the reality of what is occurring. Cease your apparently blind worship of America's unconstitutional, standing mercenary army, which has now spread a haze of depleted uranium across two lands that will result, no doubt, in thousands of birth defects in the coming years. It is all very tragic and though you may find it insignificant, we do not.
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Posted by Bill Ross on 08/21/10 03:01 PM
@Adam
Your Maxims of Law link didn't work. this does:
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"I do not understand," is the remedy."
Surely you jest? Should Native Americans be arguing for Manhattan back? We have predators on the bench who care not for fact, reason OR law. Are you suggesting we all get law degrees and then, be tempted to prey?
The ONLY lawyer I know of who attempted to argue using the "rule of law", got contempt of court (of the person on the bench, should be no such charge, only contempt of written law, else rule of corrupt man, what we are dealing with), time in the pokey, and, I believe, disbarred.
He has asked for and been granted anonymity. He was arguing that loans and mortgage contracts were invalid, since there was no goods or services exchange and, the "money" (and debt) was created out of thin air, mere computer entries. I'm sure that Bell readers can identify with this POV.
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Posted by Bill Ross on 08/21/10 02:36 PM
@Kenn
"Is there anything,,, anything at all,,, NOT a PTB meme?"
I think you're pretty safe assuming the veracity of the law of gravity. Now, all you have to do is convince your fellows that other aspects of reality exist and, they had better find something real to hang onto, apart from the shifting sands of "official" philosophy.
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Posted by Mary Boud on 08/21/10 02:17 PM
DB:"We give the power elite a lot of credit, but planning and creating a new cold war over a 50-year interval ... well that's a stretch. Isn't it?"
I'm never sure who you include in the 'power elite,' but if you changed that term to Statists, I'd have to say 'yes.' And if you include in the 'Statist' designation: progressives, socialists, communists (both Marxist and Maoist), fascist, corporatist, secular humanists of the utopian type, we have much evidence that these groups and ideologies are multi-generational.
I'm not sure about PI's planned cold war scenario but I do think these enemies of liberty have subverted much of the major Western institutions -- media, political entities, rule of law by Constitution rather than the whim of men in power, education at all levels, the free enterprise system, and even the churches.
'Canada Free Press' sends out beacons of truth via internet in an effort to save not only themselves but also the U.S. I hope they know it is much appreciated. Of course, our central government wants to control the internet and Fox News, anyone who speaks the truth in the face of their treachery.
Rather than 'cold war tensions,' I think it more likely that they work to subtly and gradually destroy cultures by undermining their structures and moral character. And, I do agree that this is largely accomplished using the Hegelian dialectic as well as moral relativism, which has fallen prey in many minds to dialectical proceses, although moral relativism falls by its own argument.
Then there are the more overt, intentional approaches, such as, the Cloward-Piven strategy which I think has been implemented by Obama and his oligarchy of czars. Following Alinsky-style tactics, they must tear down the system before they can install their own.
Rather than a new cold war being planned, I believe the financial crisis was intentional -- if not planned -- at least allowed because all of the warning signs were ignored by those in power.
What they didn't count on was the awakening and resistence of those willing to stand against this destruction of our way of life.
There is, indeed, a 'clash of civilizations' but it is not only between East and West. It is primarily between the assorted collection of power-mongering Statists who rule by deception and force, on the one hand, and, on the other,by the freedom-loving individuals striving to defend such things as truth, faith, morality, personal responsibility, and national sovereignty.
If you are a religious person, you will recognize this as the oldest war ever -- the one between the Deceiver and Ruler of this world and Michael the Archangel with his heavenly hosts. I think all on the side of liberty would, at least, agree that many have been deceived.
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Posted by Puzzled on 08/21/10 02:15 PM
It is heart warming to know there are people in this world who have the same country/world view as myself! What amazes me is, after reading the majority of your comments, I am continuously saying "That is my reaction" Good job DB. this is one of the best articles so far!
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Thanks.
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Posted by Kenn on 08/21/10 02:14 PM
Is there anything ... anything at all ... NOT a PTB meme?
Reply from The Daily Bell
Ha! We asked PI the same thing. Paranoid fellow. He thought it was a trick question and refused to answer. When we get one, we'll let you know.
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Posted by Erik on 08/21/10 01:52 PM
Love your article! Very clever and creative.
More of my musings:
My take on the Earth biosphere is that it is a forming planetary consciousness just as a fetus-baby-adolescent-adult is a forming human consciousness. Whatever the result, a human is destined to form a functioning mind and identity.
Many planets in our universe are destined to form a functioning global consciousness and identity, I believe, and Earth is one of these.
The human mind tends to form an ego, and then wrestles with its perceived separation from the universe. When it realizes that it is the universe, the ego is recognized as merely a tool for survival, but not as the identity of the human.
I am suspecting something similar is happening on the planetary level here on (in, i.e. in the atmosphere, not on the surface) Earth.
We are in our adolescent stage, and our ego (elite) is fighting against nature/truth to futilely wrest control of its destiny. What I am suspecting, is that this struggle " the PE struggle " is necessary for our global consciousness to build a beautifully functioning system. It creates a global identity that causes endless problems for the individual/globe-society that force it to look at what the hell is really going on.
Of course, humans at this stage can often end their lives in some catastrophe driven by a drug-induced state (for the pain numbing effect) or an enraged fearful ego, or both.
Perhaps the 'masses' are the drug/tv/ignorance-induced state of the global mind, and the PE are the enraged fearful ego state?
Although some humans end their journey in catastrophe as a result of this ego struggle, some achieve an epiphany of enlightenment, and the ego moves aside " for the most part " as the individual embraces the totality of the universe as his/her identity. This epiphany often happens out of the blue, peacefully, yet emotionally dramatic.
The 'ugly' caterpillar cocoons and emerges as the iridescent butterfly. So, the global future is a planetary-wide epiphany, or a global catastrophe?
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Posted by Edward Ulysses Cate on 08/21/10 01:43 PM
First of all, the power elite simply are not elite. They're sociopaths in unique financial positions. If you knew them personally, you'd have nothing to do with them at all. They wouldn't be worth your time. Study the term "sociopath" till you really understand the meaning of the word, then evaluate others in those terms. You'll see that 99% of your friends are NOT sociopaths, but the some-time bully down the street is. Now imagine him as your town's biggest banker. Then imagine him as head of your Federal Reserve district. And so on. Imagine the Skidmore Missouri bully as an international financier.
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Paranoid is the wrong word. Seeing storm clouds gathering is not being paranoid of the coming financial hurricane. Being in physical gold, where these power elites cannot use your wealth as their play money, would have saved you a lot of sleepless nights these past five years, would it not??? Is it paranoid having lifeboats on your yacht, or just plain good ol' common sense. Being truly aware of your surroundings is NOT the same as being paranoid.
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Posted by Adam on 08/21/10 12:56 PM
@Bill Ross
"The Rule of Law"
From Maxims of Law:
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# The contract makes the law.
# Agreements give the law to the contract.
# The agreement of the parties overcomes or prevails against the law.
The rule of law hasn't been abandoned – far from it. Rather it is that people have been conned into entering into and believing they have duties and obligations under purely fictional 'contracts'.
# Consent makes the law. A contract is a law between the parties, which can acquire force only by consent.
# He who contracts, knows, or ought to know, the quality of the person with whom he contracts, otherwise he is not excusable.
# Agreement takes the place of the law: the express understanding of parties supercedes such understanding as the law would imply.
"I do not understand," is the remedy.
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Posted by Kelley on 08/21/10 12:40 PM
I doesn't matter how many rhetorical flourishes are piled on top of this meme by PI, it is more than just wrong " it's deadly.
It's shocking how far out of touch with reality so many are, especially in Europe. According to that mind set, every act by the US is seen to contain a nefarious motive.
It fails to look at what Iran has been preparing for, for many years. It ignores the threat of an EMP attack against the US. Such an attack would end the US as a nation and result in the deaths of almost every single person from starvation, dehydration or pestilence.
With Resident Obama, I'm not so sure the US will help Israel. I'm surprised Israel didn't attack this week. Now it's difficult to guess with any accuracy what their plans are.
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"It ignores the threat of an EMP attack against the US."
WHAT? Iran is preparing an Electromagnetic Pulse attack against the US? ... Listen, Paranoid Individual (PI) is very excited. He needs a new roommate and wants to meet you.
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Posted by Adam on 08/21/10 12:28 PM
Subversion of morality.
Gisted -- 'It is the rulers of mankind who most understand the moral nature of mankind. The ruling class is ALL of those who gain the majority of their income through violence. The ruling class is not about rich vs poor. A rich entrepreneur is in the slave class. A low-paid government worker is in the ruling class. The ruling class is about which side of the gun are you on. It's about violence vs voluntaryism.
Morality is the most effective slave owning device that there is. You simply can't own people more effectively than inculcating morality within them. It is the slave's desire for virtue that enslaves them and makes them a slave to evil ‒ and this is fundamentally humiliating. The masters will teach you that their 'morality' is universal and their 'ethics' are absolute, and then with zero comment or admission of any exception, they will act in the opposite manner. And if you bring this hypocrisy up, YOU will be attacked by your fellow slaves.
It is the truth-telling slave who extends the universalization of ethics to the masters ‒ and thus exposing them as morally evil ‒ who is the greatest threat to every other slave because of their past horror and humiliation of having been enslaved to evil through their desire to be good, of having that which is the best of you turned into service of that which is the worst in humanity: lust for power, domination, theft, murder, war, debt. They react with the hair-trigger psychological defense called slave-extending-morality-to-masters-will-get-us-all-killed! People can't easily process the universalization of morality, so all they can do is get mad at it. They have to create exceptions to universal morality because that's what we've all been programmed to do throughout the violence of history.
So how do we change this? We have to reveal the negative consequences for immoral actions. We have to replace statism with voluntaryism. WE have to replace violence with ostracism.'
Freedomain Radio -- #1722 The Souls of the Masters – Part 1 (MP3)
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@Bill Ross
I'm now going to read your site as I promised myself I would a few weeks ago.
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Posted by Bill Ross on 08/21/10 12:04 PM
@Adam
Clearly, you have taken the trouble to educate yourself. I am aware of and have studied all of your cites and sources (and more).
All discuss the SAME problems from different perspectives and, are able to gain followers who are open to those perspectives. Problem is: Not ONE of them are comprehensive enough (Political Ponerology comes close) to achieve majority consensus and, adherents of these POV's are "divide and conquered" arguing among themselves as to which one is CORRECT when the truth is: they ALL are, from different perspectives.
I recognized this phenomena decades ago, (after asking: WTF, why is basic morality and Libertarian thought LOSING) and searched for the more basic, common elements which can unite the majority in common interest against EVIL (anti-life). I was certain it existed, just a matter of some detective work and analysis of our subverted moral beliefs and deducing what they were attempting to avoid. Corrupt judiciary also helped me, by being up real close and personal, during my divorce, an impediment, ripe for analysis, their mistake. In fact, the occasional flash of unguarded terror in judicial eyes when I demanded "equality in terms of rights and responsibilities" was a major clue. Not only did I find this, but I also found PROOF that elites, as well as us are DOOMED unless we strike a "new deal", which, oddly enough, is the "old deal", the "rule of law":
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And, of course, all of the supporting, factual arguments that lead up to it, also on my site.
My biggest class of visitors are CIA, NSA .mil and others clustered in the Langley area. As stated before, elites do not have issues with truth (they can use it to advantage). They just have issues with widespread acceptance of truth. Prior to the internet, it was individuals and organizations that flogged truth, easily triaged, in the blind eye of subverted media. Post internet, dealing with truthsayers is far more difficult. Truth goes viral and worse, a record exists even after inconvenient truthsayers are dealt with. Elites may dream, but, post internet, there is no "memory hole".
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Posted by Victor Barney on 08/21/10 11:58 AM
As I read the set-apart Bible as commended through only using the scientific process of deduction, I find where Israel, by the seed of Joseph(currently, either Britain or America) will totally destroy Edom in the last days(Turkey, which by the way, is the only Islamic country in NATO); but I didn't yet find any thing about Iran, unless Iran takes over Iraq(Babylon is another story)?
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