This also may be the Anglosphere's way of telling the world leaders to tow their line and do as commanded, or else documents that can decimate their political careers and goodwill may just be released through wikileaks.

Smart way, must say...

@Krieger

I also don't believe that "the government" (whoever or whatever is intended by that term) is running a massive psy-op. To put it in those terms is to immediately discredit the theory. If he is a tool, it is of one group, likely a small one.

I also think, many people in the establishment are REALLY ticked off about wikileaks. I don't think that is put on.

I DO think that Assange is not entirely what he purports to be.

He is much more of a grandstander and much less concerned with the repercussions of what he is doing. Which is also consistent with what many libertarians conceive liberty to be.

I think a more astute, political entity, is likely using him as needed, with the connivance of figures in the MSM.

"More transparence in government" is a very large and unedited order. It needs to be qualified to understand whether the result is actually more liberty and freedom or more tyranny.

If a small group of resistance fighters were plotting to assassinate Hitler, a truth-teller of Assange's kind might well destroy them. And that would result in...what?

More liberty?

@Krieger

"much more transparency of government..."

You will know them by what they CHOOSE to do:

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@Lila

"he might be ideologically committed as many libertarians are, to a perfect transparency model of society."

I don't believe that we should have a perfect transparency of society, but rather wish for much more transparency of government...

@ DB

"Why has Assange gone out of his way to de-emphasize 9/11 and the admitted lies of the Bush administration"

my guess is, that he sees it the same way as Ron Paul or Noam Chomsky do: you can't argue that 9/11 is an inside job if you don't have rock solid proof. The best thing they can do is to ask for a reinvestigation, but as long as you can't get a majority in Congress to reopen the case, you're doomed to fail against an apparatus as powerful as the DoD ( MSM).

Just imagine Ron Paul saying publicly that 911 was an inside job without proof! He would loose credibility and all his eye opening stands on issues LIKE US foreign policy (or Libertarianism in general) would be publicly neglected (esp. after a MSM campign).

As to 911: I am a scientist and I did look into this topic quite a bit, but nevertheless I didn't find proof without doubt. The only thing I can say for sure is a massiv coverup by the Bush Administration and esp. in the 911 Commission Report, but by saying this, I cannot jump to conclusion why exactly they were covered up and who specificly was protected by it...

As to Wikileaks: I believe it is going to be interesting to see if there are any documents prior to the Iraq war. This might actually be the Lackmus Test...

@Radek

In Assange's favor:

* he can't be held liable if someone else spins the material he releases.

*distancing himself from 9-11 skepticism might be the price he has to pay to be allowed major media exposure. And msm exposure might be what he thinks he needs to protect himself from repercussions from non-western countries. That is, he might be essentially committed to western dominance, but believe in a more open system within that dominance.

*he might be cynical enough to believe that his larger exposure of "the system" might be worth some fudging of the truth.

*he might be ideologically committed as many libertarians are, to a perfect transparency model of society.


Against Assange:

A commitment to perfect transparency (whether he is an intel tool or not) is in itself totalitarian.

I will take the John Youngs of the world (with all their crabbiness), those Bartelbys toiling in the dust of nameless archives, over this bizarre libertarian cyber-messiah.

"Money power has been around for thousands of years, including several thousand years when Israel DID NOT EXIST."

Interesting, but I have clinically deductively read the Bible as commanded(2 Peter 1:20), which is ONLY about the Set-Apart Spiritually begotten Assembly(144,000) and about Israel i.e., Jacob and his 12 sons, the name "Israel" only given to Ephraim and Mannasseh, which were to become the biggest civil powers in man's history ever, which England alone has already accomplished(Ephraim)! Judah was only given "grace,"(Messiah) but never given the name Israel, which was given only to Joseph's two sons(Gen. 48:16), who broke their "Sabbaths Covenant" and lost their name identiy! Only 144,000 of them survive too in order to keep the promise made to Jacob. So, YOU can talk about "money power" all you want, but it only was given to Israel in order to forefill the promise given them! However, they broke the Sabbaths covenant made with them and now they will be broken! However, as Israel goes, so goes the world, money power and all! Yes, Israel will be punished for 3 1/2 years, but a remnant will survive and they, NOT ANY OTHER, will control Money Power around the world. Watch and, it will not be too long, although it definitely will seem like a very, very, very long time, starting in one of the soon coming September's on the Feast of Trumpets(War)! Again, watch! Jacob's punishment will last 3 1/2 years(Jacob's trouble), but they WILL survive through grace! Watch!

Nah, you see the symptoms but misdiagnose it.

They all do not indicate a massive PsyOps.

They all indicate a desperate exploitation of the situation and spin job to save the appropriate behinds of those named.

To assume our government is that brilliant would be a huge overestimation. If they were that brilliant, then they would have heeded the sage words of George Washington and not getting into the messes internationally that led to the information that WikiLeaks released in the first place.

It's always a good idea to reevaluate motives any time there is new information but it's doubtful Julian Assange is an intelligence asset imho. There are millions of cables so it's expected that the media machine will try to spin it to their advantage right out of the gate.

The U.S. media, as last time, were told to avoid the facts contained in the cables and concentrate on the reaction " that way they can be seen to be reporting the story, but nobody's really learning anything (except the things that fit their meme that they've cherry-picked.)

Remember too that these are diplomatic cables that will have as their subject matter things that reflect the American agenda, which has been to convince other countries to distrust Iran. It's not surprising that in their cables they try to show how that agenda might be succeeding, so the cherry-picking starts even before the cable is written.

Secondly, although it is dangerous to underestimate the intelligence agencies, I think they would have done many things differently if this were an intelligence operation. They're just not that smart. This is not to say that they couldn't be using Wikileaks in some way to mitigate the damage and plant some red herrings but from what I can tell their panic is genuine.

It's more likely their new tactic is to convince everyone that it really is a psy-op. They are having a hard time discrediting Assange despite the sexual assault charges, and this might be the only way to make him go away. If you can't stop the information from coming out the only option is to stop people believing it.

Thankfully there are thoughtful analysts and bloggers such as the Daily Bell that continue to examine different perspectives using reason as the only arbiter. It's nice to see that critical thinking is still alive and kicking.

@DB, Further Note

I was rather surprised, that instead of asking your readers to have a look at the already leaked documents and to see if they can find some interesting material, you'd rather published the WikiLeaks: Clever PsyOps? article...

If you had come to your conclusion by evaluating the quality of the leaked documents so far, that there is (or might be) a "bigger picture" to look at, and that in fact those leaked documents are a PE promotion, then I might could have followed your string of thought!

So I am sorry to say, that I have to agree with Radek, that this is one of your poorer articles yet " and reading the comments of some of your lemmings, I believe this article proves to be conterproductive at this stage of time...

Nevertheless, I have read about the dozen leaked documents regarding Austria and Germany so far. Besides many trivial reports sent back home to Washington, I surely was surprised to see how effective US Embassies are in promoting their policy goals in foreign countries.

And it was shocking to read about how esp. Wolfgang Schuble was willing to serve his masters in Washington regarding sharing information of private data of german citizens with US intel. Agencies.

If you indeed want to return to Jeffersonian principles (no entangling alliances but rather friendship and trade), then we all need to understand were the systemic failures of US foreign politics are in order to fix it and to eliminate the corruption within. As far as I can say today, the Wikileak Documents provide a unique insight into the core of the system itself.

Reply from The Daily Bell

We added two editor's notes to the article to address the points you raise. Apparently they were not enough for you. Time will tell. If we are wrong, especially, it will be incumbent on us to write a follow up.

Here is another question. Why has Assange gone out of his way to de-emphasize 9/11 and the admitted lies of the Bush administration et al. regarding the circumstances surrounding the attack? (See Rutger's Dean John Farmer who served on the 9/11 Commission and has written a book disavowing conclusions of the Committee.)

@DB

"Maybe, as a result of all these releases Assange will be proven to be a courageous and committed man."

Courageous and committed to who? Perhaps Israel? Going by some of the snippets you've chosen to review that's how it looks to me (and apparently to many other bloggers across the blogsphere as well.)

Who benefits from these Wikileaks? Try substituting "Israel" with "Saudi Arabia" and you would get a more accurate picture IMO. And who REALLY wants to bomb Iran; Islamic countries? Or Israel?

[snip]

-Iran seems to be winning in Iraq, and US diplo and military correspondence seems to indicate that. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that it will be necessary to bomb Iran. In fact, bomb now. Before its leaders can do more damage.

-US allies like Saudi Arabia have been pleading with the US to take out Iran by any means necessary. RESULT: Evidence accumulating that even Islamic countries are alarmed by this crazy, out-of-control-nation Iran. Bomb Iran now! ' Before its leaders can do more damage.[/snip]

-As I see it you've failed to point out the elephant in the living room. I'm disappointed in this particular article, DB.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Who benefits from Wikileaks? It may well be that Israel benefits - along with the larger Anglosphere. But to try to make Israel, constantly the major player in these sorts of arrangements (if it is an arrangement) is not feasible in our view. It is the Anglosphere that leads the way, not Mossad.


We should simply make this a permanent disclaimer:

"The Anglosphere was around long before Israel. Prominent Jewish banking families (among others) apparently were kicked out of Venice and intermarried with British elites.

"The Anglosphere is partially Jewish and at its highest levels likely controlled by the Red Shield (Rothschilds) that may run the power elite much as the mafia does. It may be predominantly Jewish because the Rothschilds are Jewish.

"But there is plenty of speculation that the Rothschilds ARE NOT really Jewish at this point but that the religion they and others in the elite practice (if they practice a religion at all) is certainly other than normal Judaism or even Talmudic Judaism.

"To continually insist that all "Jews" lurk behind money power, or that Israel is responsible for money power is simply ludicrous.

"Money power has been around for thousands of years, including several thousand years when Israel DID NOT EXIST."

Enough Counting Sheep: Insomnia Manual on American Foreign Policy.

Also, nearly every more/less noticeable paper in the world has similar clichee, which focuses on nearly ten similar citings from 250.000 cables on board. I find it impressive and amusing.

Men'd want to know names, accounts, numbers and sums when Mr. Assange publish anything Bradley Manning got about global corruption. Otherwise, it's going to be a mainline of the screenplay stories already been swallowed and sh*tted out by Hollywood.

There is only one reason Hillary Clinton would ask for biometric info: DNA, facial structure, etc... During invasions of countries, leaders and their administrations run for cover. Once located, they must be identified and destroyed. They cannot be allowed to live and endanger any new government the PE would put in place. This is some of the most striking info for me.

Interesting how Iran is predominate in many of these leaks and the promotion of Arab against Arab to reinforce Zionist American agenda
against Iran.What does Iran think of all this?

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MSM huffing and puffing about Wikileaks since Friday makes one sceptical. As the assertion that 9/11 conspiracy theorists time would better
employed by jumping on the real anti government truth tellers bandwagon!? Rings of radio Moscow of the 80s.

@Steven Dedalus

"seems to provide any insights into..."

Take it for what it's worth, the Guardian has a spiel on how this leak came about:

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Apparently, this info came from a military intelligence network which did not have access to higher level diplomatic machinations.

IMHO, powerful elements within the US military may not consider it to be in their self-interest to be used as expendable pawns, on the path to zero credibility and organizational destruction and being stripped of resources. Loosely stated, these elements would undoubetly encompass the "Oath Keepers".

Look for more "leaks", some actually causing REAL elite damage as alliances shift away from elites and their machinations.

@Al Kyder

AK: A tool of whom Lila ?

Lila: One branch of intelligence likely

AK: Because that's what wikileaks is, a tool for disclosing classified documents that have not appeared anywhere else before.
Lila: Yes. The word classified doesn't necessarily equal crucially significant.

AK: So far every intel operation named in the last few rounds of wikileaks has come out and condemned them.

Lila: If wikileaks were intel, I would EXPECT them to, wouldn't you?

AK: Mi6 would be the only intel group capable of this kind of op

Lila: Really, why? Mossad isn't?

AK: Forget US intel, they could not organised a drinking competition in a brewery. Well not unless it cost so much that the brewery went bankrupt before the start of the contest.

Lila: Ah, the "dumb yanks" meme. Amazing that Americans can even tie their shoelaces. They have to wait for the British to do it for them, right? Or better yet, the Israelis. But you don't mention them, do you?

AK: You seriously think Mi6 wold leak that Lila ?

Lila: MI6 like Mossad or CIA is a bureaucracy...one part could well wish to embarrass another part while conveying disinformation. Sacrificing lives " the definition of war. They do that all the time.

AK: 'So they tend to support acts intended to lash out against the perpetrators, thereby most commonly preparing the ground for yet another cycle of blowback.

Lila: Blowback. Another meme, meant to sweep 9-11 under the rug.

How interesting that none of these hundreds of thousands of documents seems to provide any insights into the Twitter Revolution either for Iran or Moldova, let alone the earlier Orange and Rose franchises. Odd also this brouhaha comes on the same day two Iranian scientists are murdered by what we would otherwise call "terrorists."

WikiLeaks: Clever PsyOps?

Wouldn't ya love to think so? As Obama's papa took away the only other Republic in the world(Kenya), Barak is out to make America Marxist(Anti-Messiah)! Problem? Yes! This is NOT Kenya, it's the true "Israel" a NAME given to Joseph's kids(now Great Britain and America, NOT Judah, only given grace(Messiah), but NOT race(sorry forbidden foreigner over the true Israel(Deut. 17:15)! Next, one of these coming September's(2012?) will come Yahshua's Two-Witnesses of Revelation to punish u.s. for 3 1/2 years called Jacob's trouble! Guess who will give each other presents when the Anti-Christ(Head-Marxist) kills these Two-Witnesses?

However, remember that first(Cain) will be last and last(Seth) will be first in the resurrection! p.s. Only 144,000 people from the 12 tribes of Israel, excluding Dan(Irish) will be saved alive! "Repent and be baptized in the name of Yahshua"(Hebrew meaning is: Yahweh is salvation)! You do know that "Hebrew" is the "only" spiritually inspired language, right, not Greek, Latin or even English? Zeph. 3:9, Acts 26:14, 1 Cor. 4:6

Thanks for putting my suspicions into words. I hope we are wrong and doubts diminish, but as it stands I smell a rat.

@ B.Benhamid

Julian Assange of WikiLeaks is probably working for the CIA since he is free like a bird and financially well taken care of.

Because we all know that the mighty US of A can just pluck anyone out of society day or night wherever or whenever they feel like it.

So hoist ol' glory and submit to the inevitable, you know you'll have to sooner or later!

@ Lila Rajiva

A tool of whom Lila ? Because thats what wikileaks is, a tool for disclosing classified documents that have not appeared anywhere else before.

So far every intel operation named in the last few rounds of wikileaks has come out and condemned them. Mi6 would be the only intel group capable of this kind of op, forget US intel, they could not organised a drinking competition in a brewery. Well not unless it cost so much that the brewery went bankrupt before the start of the contest.

From Wikileaks

MI6, introduces a fake Taliban commander to 'peace talks' with Afghan President Hamid Karzai. A Pakistani shopkeeper, pretending to be the Taliban second-in-command Mullah Mansour, then defrauds MI6 out of £600,000, his fee for taking part in the charade.

He was flown into Kabul for three secret meetings with Afghan and Nato representatives, including one at President Karzai's palace.

Karzai's chief of staff says: 'The British authorities are responsible. This is embarrassing and has undercut the notion there was some momentum towards talks.'

Never mind WikiLeaks, how many lives might this exercise cost? The imposter has disappeared with the money " and information useful to the Taliban.

What does MI6 have to say?

You seriously think Mi6 wold leak that Lila ?

Best quote of the day ;

It could cost lives, they say, referring to leaked documents about what we're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is always the cry. It's an insult to our war dead.

They didn't lose their lives because of WikiLeaks. The best explanation I've heard came in the obituaries last week for U.S. academic and CIA consultant Dr Chalmers Johnson, who has died in California aged 79.

Dr Johnson said the U.S. misuses its great power, adding : 'When the retaliation comes, as it did so spectacularly on September 11, 2001, the American public is unable to put the events in context.

'So they tend to support acts intended to lash out against the perpetrators, thereby most commonly preparing the ground for yet another cycle of blowback.

Reply from The Daily Bell

"Because we all know that the mighty US of A can just pluck anyone out of society day or night wherever or whenever they feel like it."

Again, you make a foolish and unsubstantiated comment. Assange was in trouble as youth and had substantive interactions with Australian authorities. Who knows what deals he has made, or hasn't, and at what age. But his interactions are documented.

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"When the retaliation comes, as it did so spectacularly on September 11, 2001, the American public is unable to put the events in context."

No doubt you believe Osama bin Laden is alive and living in a cave in Pakistan, surrounded by kidney dialysis machines. You are in superb form today. You really ought to apply to Fox and see if you can land a job as a news reader.