Rupert Murdoch's Failing Attempts to Control the Internet Reformation
Rupert Murdoch lost nearly his entire investment in MySpace the other day when he sold the failing social network to musician and actor Justin Timberlake and an ad agency he backs for some US$30 million. This was a good deal less than the US$500 million-plus Murdoch paid for it.
Why did Murdoch make such a bad investment? Because he hoped to use the network as a vehicle from which he could disseminate news. He wanted to make MySpace into a mechanism to deliver current-events content. When it didn't work out – and he must have known that fairly soon – he obviously lost interest. And as his interest waned, so did MySpace.
This speaks to Murdoch's desperation – and mainstream media's generally. In a digital world, he is willing to burn US$500 million simply to confirm that a social network is not a news delivery system. I could have told him that for a much lower fee.
This also shows us the importance of news to the powers-that-be. The Anglosphere elites – for whom Murdoch evidently and obviously works – are determined (thus far without much success) to find a way to protect their failing information franchise.
Nothing in the past 300 years or so, while the elites have advanced their one-world-order, has been so devastating to their plans as the Internet and the rise of the alternative media driven Internet Reformation. It has poisoned the chalice and befouled the well; it has unbalanced the clarity of the concoction and clouded it with truth. A bitter brew ... for them!
Western power elites will do ANYTHING to reclaim their news franchise. When one looks at 20th century media development one is struck by its massive size and strategic composition. Every part of Western 20th century media worked seamlessly together. The whole idea was to create an increasingly militarized society that would accept global government as part of the natural order of things.
Hollywood delivered messages of violence and fear; the magazines and newspapers rehashed the same sorts of information and television – that unique, talking box – broadcast alarm and resolution-of-the same 24-hours a day.
There was no escape from it. If the world was not in death throes, that's only because the wise men clustered at the top of the West's painstakingly created authoritarian systems were saving the world on a real-time basis.
It is news dissemination that the power elite craves. Everything else is just a backdrop. The entertainment, the talk shows, the game shows, these were all merely the wrapper supporting the main act. Everything in Western media in the 20th century led up to the News Program. And the talking heads providing the "news" were glorified as great intellects worthy of the most arduous approbation.
Walter Cronkite, a febrile and shallow socialist, was the "most trusted man in news." Dan Rather, a compulsive self-aggrandizer, was a countrified, attack-dog. These individuals did nothing but read the news; but they were revered. Today, things have changed. Mainstream news ... very little. As a delivery mechanism of mind control it is failing. In fact, every part of the intricate system is failing.
In order to build a new world order, people must be either frightened or enticed into cooperating. It is a great deal easier to scare people than to bribe them, less costly too. But when the delivery mechanism fails, when people begin to tune it out as they have in the 21st century, then the message is muddled and gradually grows more insignificant.
Murdoch's properties are supposed to provide the conservative half of a worldwide Hegelian dialectic. He's been funded by Western elites to provide this vision because if one is to move society toward global governance, a conversation is necessary. Thesis, antithesis ... synthesis. Murdoch provides the antithesis, with relish.
As a major facilitator of the one-world conspiracy, Murdoch is tasked with taming the Internet Reformation. It must be brought under control and the Internet made to work on behalf of a larger world order.
One can watch him writhe, these days. We've compared him to Hamlet, especially a few years ago when he really seemed at a loss and began to lash out while mumbling to himself. He bought MySpace and ruined it like a petulant child when it didn't perform as planned. When he began MySpace had nearly 75 million users. It now has less than 35 million.
He's onto the next gambit – increasingly known in the mainstream media as "fail walls." These pay walls encircle Internet content like moats around castles. Instead of seeing articles for free, readers are enticed with an occasional news story and then urged to sign up and pay for access to fuller content.
The New York Times tried this a few years ago and saw its on-line circulation plunge; it is trying again now with a different model known as "freemium" – a mix of free and paid content which is said to be working marginally better.
Murdoch, however, is the most active participant in this futile circus. He's placed paywalls around his properties in Britain, The Times and Sunday Times, in the US with such publications as The Wall Street Journal and is now transplanting the strategy to his Australian publications. The fairly thick walls around his UK publications have indeed kept casual browsers out. Reports claim that the UK Times has blocked 20 million viewers and replaced them with 79,000 digital subscribers.
This is heralded as a "success" in the brave new world of the Internet era. Meanwhile, circulation figures from ABC show that The Times and Sunday Times print sales fell 14.8% and 9.5% year-on-year. The UK Guardian News & Media Group have pursued a non-paywall approach and reportedly generated a 50 per cent increase in digital advertising revenue in the first six months of the financial year. Free content – open access – works better than pay walls.
Murdoch has also started a dedicated, online newspaper known as The Daily. It is delivered through Apple aps and people pay for it. But the problem is no different; the information being delivered hasn't changed, only the delivery system. Murdoch keeps tinkering with the hardware when it's the software that is the problem.
It could be that the open-access model is the one that works the best. It certainly makes the most sense. The 20th century, as we've written before, was a time of artificial news scarcity. The 21st century is one of news plenty. In such a brave new world, how can one successfully charge for content? Better to give it away and try to surround it with ads or, in the case of the Daily Bell, operate a non-profit, advertising free site and rely on the generotisty of readers to help make the message grow.
But the trouble for the mainstream press is that the information has to be compelling in order to compete with the alternative media. DB reports a kind of truth; the mainstream media promotes fear and globalism.
In an environment where there is a plethora of product, the only distinguishing factor is quality. Power-elite media does not "do" quality very well. That is not why it exists. This is another problem Murdoch has when it comes to trying to charge for product. His news and information are a tool designed to advance the larger conversation and move it in the direction of international governance. He is not a free agent in this regard.
In order to compete with the Internet's alternative media, Murdoch's media has changed its tone. It is much more strident than in the past about "conservative" issues. This is because the free-market thinking that's driving the Internet Reformation is pulling the dialogue in a libertarian direction. Murdoch compensates with conservative viewpoints but gradually the fulcrum of the conversation is shifting.
In the 21st century, the larger social conversation is gradually repolarizing itself around what is natural and normal. The more people learn, the less convincing his conservative editorial thrust becomes; and the more strident authoritarian voices like Bill O'Reilly's become. People, once they understand their own manipulation, trend toward the libertarian point of view, which is why in the US, libertarian Texas Congressman Ron Paul is increasingly popular.
In order to accommodate the realigned conversation, Murdoch is forced to go along with it. This accounts for the rise of people like Glenn Beck. There is no way that Beck's increasingly libertarian viewpoints would have been tolerated in the 20th century – and evidently not in the 21st century either.
Obviously, the Glenn Beck experiment proved too arduous for Murdoch's Fox as Beck has been released and is now starting his own TV channel. It may be that Beck proves more successful on his own than with Fox. He claims to have retained his soul. This is another problem that Murdoch's media has – it doesn't appear to have much of a soul.
As the conversation shifts, Murdoch has to shift with it. But in order to accommodate the changing conversation he begins to BECOME exactly what his elite backers hoped to eradicate. To retain credibility he must present a version free-market thinking; yet this is anathema to his sponsors who wish only to promote covert and overt globalism. It is a conundrum.
This puzzle shall remain with the elites. The Internet Reformation, in fact, is a process not an episode. The trends that the Internet has produced are only going to get more powerful. As with the Gutenberg Press, the Internet's effects will not easily be tamed. The apparent results of the Gutenberg Press – the Renaissance, Reformation, etc. – reverberated long after its inception. The changes began to occur with rapidity some 100 years its invention. The changes spawned by the Internet began after about 20 years.
From this we can see, mathematically speaking, that the ratio between the Internet and the Press is perhaps one-to-five. It took the elites about 350- 400 years to control the Press and to begin to monopolize its output. Thus, it may take the elites about 50-75 years to control the Internet.
But there is something else to consider. Assume for the sake argument that the mainstream media historical timeline is an accurate one (which we no longer do, necessarily) there can be no doubt things have speeded up. There was a 25,000 year gap between cave paintings and incised tablets. There was perhaps a 10,000 year gap between tablets and papyrus. There was perhaps a 5,000 year gap between papyrus and the printing press. There was a 500 year gap between the invention of the press and the advent of the Internet.
It may be that just about the time the elites have managed to fully control the Internet – in say 50 years – a NEW technology will come along and make life difficult all over again. The competition between the elites and the middle class was fully joined with the advent of the Gutenberg Press. This marked a fundamental shift in human history from what we can tell, defining history as a race between technology and elite mind control. The confrontation has only sharpened in the Internet era.
We may be at the early stages of a great Internet-inspired Reformation. The initial Reformation gave rise to fundamental shifts in society 500 years ago and redefined the relationship between peasantry and the elites of the day. It also kicked off a series of low-level, pan-European wars.
If one studies the Gutenberg Press and its impacts, one can see plenty of parallels between what is occurring now and what occurred then. At the time, the elites struggled to advance their control and maintain what they had already achieved. But it seems to me they lost control, despite the wars, at least temporarily, and now they are losing control again. For those in tune with what is happening, the 21st century may eventually prove a fine time to be alive and working.
At some point, the confluence of modern free-market thinking may force the powers-that-be to take a step back. Murdoch's struggles are not made up. One only has to look at them over the past ten years to see a concretization of the theoretical proposals we've been presenting.
These issues are real. They may have great ramifications as the Internet Reformation rolls on, affecting everything from investments to lifestyle choices. In fact, I'd argue the impact is already a powerful one, even though people may not realize just what is occurring. Murdoch believes that he can regain control of the message with social networks, paywalls and dedicated content. He will likely go to his deathbed (he is not a young man) believing this. He and his backers and handlers may be wrong.
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Posted by forthurst on 07/06/11 07:54 AM
"The Anglosphere elites - for whom Murdoch evidently and obviously works - are determined (thus far without much success) to find a way to protect their failing information franchise."
The embedded link to 'anglosphere' is historically incorrect: I had attempted to offer corrections to some of it: sadly, England suffers from the same gang of international mobsters as the USA: the only difference is that in England they operate out of public view; hence there is little public awareness of the enemy within. This is not a co-operative venture anymore than a man with a tapeworm.
Posted by memehunter on 07/06/11 01:25 AM
Some academic, peer-reviewed, research providing further evidence for the crucial importance of mainstream media control in the subversion of democracy:
How to Subvert Democracy: Montesinos in Peru. John McMillan and Pablo Zoido, Journal of Economic Perspectives, Fall, 2004
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Which of the democratic checks and balances - opposition parties, the judiciary, a free press - is the most forceful? Peru has the full set of democratic institutions. In the 1990s, the secret-police chief Montesinos systematically undermined them all with bribes.
We quantify the checks using the bribe prices. Montesinos paid television-channel owners about 100 times what he paid judges and politicians. One single television channel's bribe was five times larger than the total of the opposition politicians' bribes. By revealed preference, the strongest check on the government's power was the news media.
Posted by forthurst on 07/05/11 03:01 PM
Can I draw your attention to the embedded cross reference via Anglosphere to Anglo-American axis. This is mainly divergent from actual history.
First of all the Anglo-Saxon wipeout theory is entirely unsupported by DNA evidence:
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Second, Jews were expelled from England by Edward I for engaging in usury after warnings. They were allowed to keep their loot although usury was a hanging offence at the time. They were readmitted by Oliver Cromwell from Holland and a further influx came with William of Orange.
The rest looks pretty suspect too. The USA was allied with France and against England during the war of Independence and the Napoleonic wars. The USA entered WWI as the result of a deal between Arthur Balfour and the Jews to bring the USA in to continue the war against Germany, lost at that time, in exchange for the Balfour declaration.
Likewise the WWII, essentially a war between Jewish Bolshevism and Germany, which had decisively rejected incorporation into the the Jewish Bolshevik empire, in which both England and the USA were dragged in with shabbas goy, Churchill, acting as cheerleader.
The web is a source of unsubstantiated rumour and propaganda (wikepedia) on history.
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Posted by Michael Volz on 07/04/11 07:50 AM
Correction! You say:
This also shows us the importance of news to the powers-that-be. The
Anglosphere elites - for whom Murdoch evidently and obviously works -
"Anglosphere elites??????" , "Power elite"??????
Try Israeli Mossad!
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Oh, thanks, Mike, hadn't occurred to us, eh? And who does the Mossad work for? The Israeli government. And who founded the Israeli government? And where do THEY live. Hint, it's not Israel.
Posted by channa on 07/04/11 03:48 AM
Molyneux got his childhood as motive from Lloyd DeMause. He is a DeMause fan and regurgitates the information he receives from him.
DeMause theory is that all wars, rapes, world problems stem from children being abused by their mothers. In one video I saw of DeMause, Demause said that men rape women because of child abuse. He then went on to giggle about the rapes and basically said it was women's fault.
That is the basis of Molineux's childhood as motive statements. The video I saw is at youtube but I can't remember which one it is. But I also read some long papers by Demause which lays out his theory. He says Palestinians routinely sexually molest their children. How he knows this he does not say. He uses a few examples of Mothers abusing children but makes the blanket theory statements that it is wide spread and pervasive in all cultures. He says all wars are caused by childhood victimhood, and the need for males to express their anger.
It is worth reading just because it is so sick.
Posted by amanfromMars on 07/04/11 12:48 AM
"This is our heritage, this research, these ideas that we have, that is leading to knowledge that no human in history has had the opportunity to have before. This is what we're going to be handing down to future generations. We need to make sure we are not backed into a corner where we are not able to distribute this research to others, and that this isn't locked up in IP vaults with lawyers standing guard. And finally, there will be accidents and problems. We need to mitigate these risks." ..... Len Sassaman, (1980-2011) .... RIP ...... Click to view link
Sentiments that are surely echoed wholeheartedly by the Daily Bell and its readership/mentorship in their fields of research/virtual spaces of especial interest? They certainly ring true at all the higher beta levels of shared information processing of data and metadata into intelligence and knowledge for dissemination/planting/future presentation/sublime anonymous stealthy leadership.
Posted by speedygonzales on 07/04/11 12:39 AM
For years am tellin to my friends that what I-net di to rullin' class it did not happened in history. There is well known that chuch prohibited read even bible to ordinary folx. Just to know read wasreason for execution. Oligarchal system is always the same. Control info's and opresion. Look into history of the last 100 years how much the rulling class invested into brainwashin' mashinery. And all those money are gone now. Is this some god's mill or justice. Aint it? Burn in hell, Ruppie
Posted by amanfromMars on 07/03/11 12:09 PM
If you have any lingering doubts about just how far the human condition is being programmed by AI and the computer [virtual machines], in all of their many different forms, perhaps the following can stir you from the lethargy of ignorance and the hubris of arrogance ........ "That might be a result of cyberspace changing so rapidly and spontaneously that parameters are a thing of the past. Or, it might be that computers themselves actually are calling the shots, and human speculation is little more than uninformed opinion. One fact is certain: In cyberspace, no one can hear you think; but in this age of social media and rapid communication, the world can learn quickly what you are thinking." ..... Click to view link
Posted by amanfromMars on 07/03/11 06:30 AM
Here is another take, in other words, on the universal problem, David_Robertson [Posted on 07/03/11 04:39 AM]/chives [Posted by chives on 07/02/11 11:00 PM] ........ Click to view link
You always have some holier than thou, do gooder who thinks that they know best and they can do whatever they want with impunity, which of course is a myth, and it identifies them as the enemy within.
Posted by David_Robertson on 07/03/11 04:39 AM
In other words:
Swear by my sword.
Never to speak of this that you have heard.
[Beneath] Swear by his sword.
Well said, old mole, canst work i' th' earth so fast?
A worthy pioner! Once more remove, good friends.
O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!
And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hamlet Act 1, scene 5
Posted by amanfromMars on 07/03/11 01:58 AM
"Many AI scientists feel an AI learning kernel can be created and go SAI from a garage. This means, not even the power elite, can control it".... Posted by James Jaeger on 07/02/11 05:53 PM
You would hardly be surprised to know, JJ, that such as you talk about, is, and is controlled by those who develop it for the sublime remanipulation of human perception with IT and media leading programs.
And you may like to consider that it is the Perfect Storm Spoiler which comes out of nowhere to completely transform the misfortunes and take over the reins of power and control in both collapsed and rapidly failing Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition systems, and the only way that concerned, previously established power elites can exercise any sort of influence over future events which will burst forth from the field, is to ensure that its controllers are supplied with all that they need, rather than them having to take/make what they need for themselves.
Which is a classic Catch 22 situation, is it not, although only for one of the parties ....... the junior party/partner in the new future program.
And with regard to that and those in charge of, and responsible for, the present strengthening chaos and weakening money power control, which would be those elite groupings/conspiring entities as are represented in the collective executive term, Power Elites, is it the very simple case case that they will either partner with AI, be abolished by it or be ignored by it.
The free choice is theirs to make for humanity.
"IMO the next step for the Internet is a "semantic net" which leads to what we call the "global brain."" ...... Here is a step in Semantic Web dDevelopment already taken some time ago, and extremely stealthy and sensitive in operations ...... "Welcome to a HyperRadioProActive NEUKlearer Beta for any Universal NeuReal World Order Program which would use Advanced IntelAIgent Research and dDevelopment Algorithms which are Resolutely Pragmatic and Independent of Biased Spin in Favour of Binary Certainty.
In the Virtualised World in which the Dots can be joined, in an Instant at the Click of a Mouse, to transform and reform a Fragmented and Disintegrating Nightmare Scenario into a Digitally Manipulated Master Peace, it is with AI and a QuITe Alien and Astute CyberIntelAIgently Designed Stealth that one Ships and Slips, Embedding Crack Codes into Core Operating Systems, which would choose to Ignore and Resist Virtually Real Progress for the Maintenance of a Status Quo Position which Servers Excess to former Exclusive Sects and Sections of Society, rather than Enrich All with Endless NeuReal InfraStructure Build with Innovation in Novel Imagination."
Ignorance may be Bliss but Knowledge is Heavenly, and the more you know the more in touch with everything you are.
Posted by chives on 07/02/11 11:00 PM
80 % of the female Afghanistan and surrounding areas are addicted to opiuum. Do you call it winning when the women are dying?
Perhaps,depending on your world view The power elite are phycopaths. No one really knows what a phycopath is - a better metaphor is bed bugs- the similarities are stiking - the similarities of the human prey population reaction to bed bugs is exactly the same as to any prey population. Didn't you see me -
Didn't you see huckleberry,'come to mamma come - killing and death is not something to be avoided- the killing of that which preys on the human is a good thing. Why ever did you question this?Why are you so afraid of death? Have you no faith? The era of smallness may very well be over- perhaps time waits for no man. An obsolete social structure dies slowly in human terms , but it dies and it is only your love for it - of my returns on the stock market ! that draw out the death. Love for the species is entirely different than love for the system. Oh but Pavlov's dogs. So cute, such a exercise ,dirt science and animation is a dog is it?
During a time we believed that the seed came from the rain,observation told us that after the spring rains the earth came alive with growth, we had seen seed grow from dung, small amounts, but huge growth during spring! so we concluded that seed came from the rain - the great bull of heaven the constallation pleildes-which happened to be coming over the horizon during the rainy season . The observation was correct , but the abstrac conclusion was wrong - the same with pavlov dogs, in other words the technocrats think they have a clue but that is highly unlikely.
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Posted by Wrusssr on 07/02/11 10:10 PM
The Internet and its instant disbursement of information to humanity is the elite's worst nightmare. All along 'Net's superhighway lies the wreckage of their attempts to hide their true intent and pull the wool over the public's eyes. 9/11. Genetically modified (GM) food. WMDs. The "Green Revolution." Swine flu. Population explosion. "Pandemic" vaccinations. All lies.
The web shined/is shinning a light on these psychopathic bilge rats that create 'wars' for profit and plunge humanity into economic abysses to enrich themselves.
You're right on, DB. They've been outed; like the 'Net outed the global warmers who were set to run a global CO2 tax scam to siphon wealth for The Chosen again. The criminals in Washington, unable to even get the compliant congress to pass such a scheme, are currently trying to force it upon America with unconstitutional EPA 'regulations' and 'laws.' This, too, is rapidly coming to a head.
The elite have made/make mistakes; even admit they never should have given he public access to the 'Net. And there's their 1971 deliberate decoupling of the dollar from gold. Why is this looming large for the world economy? Hugo Salinas Price counted the ways in his classic article in 2010.
If the financial Wizards of Oz who operate behind the curtain can somehow neutralize the Internet, they're home free. Maybe.
If they fail, they may find themselves looking for asylum-if they can find a country that will take them.
Regardless, they've heard the footsteps and have, in my opinion, scrabbled together their current two-minute drill. A final Hail Mary? Could be the mercenaries they've quartered in the U.S. and their heavy-handed chunks of money with which to pay them. Regardless, they're not going quietly into the night. We shall see.
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Posted by James Jaeger on 07/02/11 05:53 PM
Tasty, well-thought-out article.
IMO the next step for the Internet is a "semantic net" which leads to what we call the "global brain." The global brain will be one of several ways super intelligent AI will emerge by 2035. After this happens -- what's known as the Singularity -- humanity will either partner with AI, be abolished by it or be ignored by it. After thousands of hours of thought on these choices, I have come to the conclusion SAI will partner with Humanity. Even so, it will be unclear as to how sole or merged SAI will treat the power elite as SAI is autonomous, by definition. SAI may choose to delete the power elite and continue its partnership with enhanced/uploaded humans. This is the next horizon and the next concern of, not only the power elite, but all thinking humanity. We are giving birth to our nexus. The Singularity will happen within 20 - 30 years. Many AI scientists feel an AI learning kernel can be created and go SAI from a garage. This means, not even the power elite, can control it. Obviously the agents of war and waste will be remedied by enlightened, augmented humans and/or SAI so that the exploration and colonization of the universe can proceed much more rapidly. This project is the only reason humanity exists, so of course there is nothing that can stop it. The Fermi paradox only is only a result of the fact that other civilizations are our own age and going through the same growth curve, thus they can no more comm with us than we with them at this time. But post-Singularity, all bets are off. All bets are really off at this time. Now back to SPOILER . . . Click to view link
Posted by David_Robertson on 07/02/11 05:33 PM
I would tend to agree with this. It may be of course that the mental atmosphere in Europe is qualitatively different than in the US. I have certainly noticed a marked difference in the seven years I have been back in the UK.
On the whole I have also detected IN MYSELF lately an emotional fatigue on the whole question of elite manipulations, banker skulduggery, political corruption and so on ad nauseam. In my experience this is not due so much to my own physical/emotional/mental state but rather to the actions ON ME from the mental atmosphere around me in the "world" that I live in.
I am quite sure about this since I have been observing these phenomena for some years. This suggests to me that there is at work a "pushback" i.e. opposition in the spiritual realm and that any advance for the moment is being held up until whatever is obstructing us is removed.
What came to me today was that we must begin to pray for those who are oppressing us. We must bless those who are persecuting us. We must forgive those who are sinning against us even though they will not forgive us OUR debts. We must begin to exercise love for our enemies by doing these things.
I recently came up with a new acronym that crystallises these thoughts for me very quickly. "Financial Oligarchy Elites" (F.O.E.) It was then that the word came to me "Love Your Enemies" (L.Y.E. - a cleansing agent). By exercising these principles we shall indeed act as cleansing agents, agents of the greatest cleansing power in the universe, love.
Posted by James Jaeger on 07/02/11 05:30 PM
]Murdoch is tasked with taming the Internet Reformation. It must be brought under control and the Internet made to work on behalf of a larger world order.
Why does Murdoch allow Stossel and Napolitano on his network?
Posted by memehunter on 07/02/11 04:06 PM
A general comment:
Not to sound pessimistic in the face of DB's general optimism regarding the "Internet Reformation", but my own experience this year on other blogs/websites has provided me with a much-needed "reality check". I was banned from posting on a tennis website (of all places!) because I dared to disagree with the official narrative about bin Laden's death (note that the article was about bin Laden's death - I did not bring the topic).
On two alt-right blogs (clearly not mainstream, so one would assume that their readers are somewhat more enlightened), I was also told that I was "stupid" and "lunatic" for expressing my doubts about the Moon landings and about 9/11. Note that my posts were very measured and certainly not incendiary because I expected that there would be disagreement. To be fair, other posters did question the official narrative about 9/11, but for the most part my impression was that these topics should not even be brought up and I was made to feel uncomfortable for mentioning these issues.
The take-home message is that the level of brainwashing among the general population (especially in the USA, it would seem) is simply astonishing and that there is still a lot of work to do.
It was interesting to see that, in contrast, the ORF (national television) in Austria diffused a 30-min documentary openly questioning the official narrative regarding bin Laden's death and some mainstream European newspapers were much more willing to express their reservations (by the way, this is one of the reasons why, in contrast to DB, I am not convinced that the elites are a truly monolithic bloc; it would seem, for instance, that some European elites feel that the current American administration went too far with the faked bin Laden death and were not afraid to let the mainstream media express this opinion - but I may not be reading this correctly).
Posted by amanfromMars on 07/02/11 04:05 PM
"Will this current reformation lead to minions forcing the Elite not only to pull back, but indeed to take cover underground to avoid being run out of town on a rail?" ..... Posted by William3 on 07/02/11 02:58 PM
If the present Elite hierarchies/old robber baron families/dodgy royal charades imagine that things will remain much the same as is now, with them still doing as they will, rather than as is needed for the greater good and a complete change for a better shared future, then is the answer to the above an unqualified yes, and it will happen so very quickly as to completely take them by surprise, even as they imagine that they have all bases covered to prevent exactly that which they fear the most, and against which they have no defense or excuse.
It is inevitable ... for the very simple reasons as were stated by William3 above. And whereas it is most definitely true that ..."The level of education among the broad population of people in the world today is much deeper than that in the 16th century. If so, the effect may be much deeper as well." ... it is also true that there are a growing number of networking/communicating beings who are so very much smarter than anyone ever imagined possible, and most certainly significantly so whenever measured against those who would have considered them as minions and useful tools for continuation of their plans.
Posted by memehunter on 07/02/11 03:46 PM
I like some of Molyneux's stuff, but this video does not impress me. The viewpoint is incredibly USA-centric for one thing (what about the blood, sweat, and toil of the Chinese, Japanese, and others?).
Moreover, one might agree with Molyneux that these foreign countries are accumulating claims on the future work of Americans, but then Americans enjoyed an incredible quality of life for most of the 20th century, partly at the expense of the Chinese, Japanese, and others. In any case, I have a feeling that these countries will end up getting very little actual value for all their paper dollars. I tend to agree with peri1224's analysis.
Finally, Molyneux's credibility was not enhanced (as far as I am concerned) when I became aware of his position on 9/11 a few months ago (I read most of his stuff after feedbacker Adam mentioned him on DB). This is becoming a sort of "litmus test" for me, and let's just say that I was not impressed at all by Molyneux's position.
Stefan Molyneux 05-28-2007:
"* If 9/11 was an inside job, it will never be proven. The evidence - and key witnessess - have all been destroyed.
* If it is proven, it will only engender anger to certain individuals, not the state as a whole. It will actually increase the power of the state.
* There are an infinity of truths out there, which will help our cause far more - why focus on this impossible one?
* It's not rational to focus on 9/11, therefore the motive must arise from childhood."
The motive must arise from childhood? Wow...
Posted by William3 on 07/02/11 02:58 PM
I wonder if the nature of the Internet Reformation is much deeper than that of the one 500 years ago. The level of education among the broad population of people in the world today is much deeper than that in the 16th century. If so, the effect may be much deeper as well.
It's likely few understood how elite powers worked 500 years ago. They just knew they were oppressed and pushed for an opportunity for freer expression. Today, we have more information about the nature of the Money Elite and who they are. Will this current reformation lead to minions forcing the Elite not only to pull back, but indeed to take cover underground to avoid being run out of town on a rail?
Wishful thinking, but who knows how this will shake out.