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Occupy Wall Street Turns Into 1930s Populism
Occupy Wall Street: Thousands March in New York as Unions Join Protest ... Thousands of people gathered and marched alongside Occupy Wall Street Protest as union labor gave their support to the long-running protest Wednesday. Protestors with union slogans left work early to march from Occupy Wall Street to Foley Square in Lower Manhattan making it the largest demonstration since the movement was launched on Sept. 17. – International Business Times
Dominant Social Theme: The people have had enough. Get rid of the corporations and the bankers just the way they did in the 1930s.
Free-Market Analysis: It must have been intensely frustrating for the powers-that-be over the past few years to witness the explosion of free-market thinking that accompanies the unrolling financial crisis that started in late 2007. But now there's Occupy Wall Street and one begins to hear the sad strains of populism reasserting themselves. We await the re-release of Grapes of Wrath.
The Anglosphere power elite needs to create an "us against them" mentality and free-market thinking doesn't yield that sort of analysis. The Internet has been a big stumbling block to their efforts to further socialize the world's economy on the march towards global governance. But now, thanks to Occupy Wall Street, the 1930s socialist dialogue is beginning to replay itself (see article except above).
Occupy Wall Street is making all this possible. There's no gainsaying it now. The reason that the organizers wouldn't release goals was because the entire effort has been a kind of power-elite setup. No one wanted the movement to reveal what it really was until it had gained some momentum.
(Editor's Note: Make no mistake, please. We would LIKE to believe that Occupy Wall Street will prove out to be a genuine LIBERTARIAN protest movement, but all the signs seem pointing against it. The mainstream media in particular is determined to portray it as neo-populism whether it is or not ... Our elves feel increasingly sorry for certain organizers like David DeGraw, who wrote yesterday in his AmpedStatus blogsite that the Occupy Wall Street protests ARE focused on the central banking money mechanism, which is the evident and obvious root of the West's expanding economic ruin. You can see his LETTER TO ALEX JONES at the bottom of yesterday's article, "Occupy Wall Street – Oh No! [& Open Letter to Alex Jones].") ... Sorry, Mr. DeGraw, but you'll need to make a lot of noise to redirect attention in the appropriate direction). Anyway, hope you do, but we're not optimistic at this point. The train is leaving the proverbial station ...)
Increasingly, Occupy Wall Street is is revealing what it may have been planned to be all along: elitist propaganda. The populist meme underlying its formulation is finally taking off. This provides the REAL powers-that-be the rationale to pass more laws and further consolidate their control over the economy.
If the problem is seen as one of economic distortion due to central banking, then real change can occur. But if the problem is seen as one of Wall Street corruption and "greed," then we are due for a repeat of 1930s populism and its nonsensical, government-based solutions.
In fact, in the article excerpted above, we can see the memes on display that the great central banking families have been attempting to expand for the past four years. Occupy Wall Street increasingly looks to be the Trojan Horse that may finally bring these themes to the forefront of public consciousness and allow for yet further undermining of what's left of the globe's staggering economy. Here's some more from the article:
Foley Square was filled with thousands as several labor group speakers railed against corporate America. "Corporate greed has pulled every one of us here. It's time not to occupy Wall Street, but to take back Wall Street," Christopher Shelton, vice president of the regional branch of the Communication Workers of America yelled at the crowds.
Protesters participating in the Wednesday march were members of National Nurses United, the profession's largest U.S. union; the Transport Workers Union Local 100, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's biggest; and the Working Families Party, a coalition of more than 60 community organizations, San Francisco Chronicle reported.
More than 15,000 people were estimated to attend the protest, Patrick Bruner, a spokesman for Occupy Wall Street said. Apart from being a leaderless organization, Occupy Wall Street is also known as a movement that started on Sept. 17 when thousands of people gathered at Wall Street to fight greed and corruption.
"Working people are going to stand together until we get fair justice in our economy," said George Gresham, president of the Service Employees International local. "We want to make sure our children have a future in this country that is not subservient to those who have more than they need."
We can see from this excerpt just what is going on. The Tea Party and the libertarian focus of the past four years – pointing the blame at government corruption, central banking and mercantilism – is to be swept away by Occupy Wall Street. Now, a new wave of populism is to allow the Anglosphere the latitude to further regulate the private economy.
All this is in the history books, of course. The great populism of the 1930s led to an entire empyrean structure of regulatory malfeasance: the SEC, NASD and a number of "self regulatory" organizations including the NYSE and the American Stock Exchange. The idea was to increase the "transparency" of the money business and thus make it "fairer" to the little guy. Didn't work of course. Things are far worse today, thanks to the expanding concentrations of elite power and the rigidity of solutions that regulation inevitably generates.
In order to really increase the fairness of "Wall Street" one would have to do away with central banking and the ability of the great central banking and their enablers to print money from nothing. This is the spark plug that fires the cylinder of the money business. This is the mechanism of Money Power. No fairness, no equity will ever return to Western civilization until Money Power is eradicated via the removal of central banks.
When you see people pointing their collective finger at "corporations," "Wall Street" or "bankers," you should know instinctively that you are being led astray. You are being focused on the wrong irritant. Here at DB, we're very conscious of the manipulations of the "populism" meme. One of our central analyses is how such dominant social themes have been effectively diminished by the truth-telling of the 'Net, what we have started to call the Internet Reformation.
The Internet has actually retarded the populism meme most effectively, and we believe this will continue to be the case. Occupy Wall Street itself may be yet another attempt by the elites to rev up populism, but chances are it won't work very well. They've been after this meme for at least four years now without much success.
Or course that doesn't mean they won't keep trying. They never give up and they have endless resources with which to work. The idea is to get the "little guy" really upset over the inequities between Wall Street and main street. The more angry people are with Wall Street, essentially a transactional business of intermediaries, the less they will notice the "men behind the curtain" pulling the levers of power.
This suits the great central banking families of the City of London that want to INCREASE regulation and laws because the more laws there are, the more control they have ... given that they THEY control the governments behind the scenes. Mercantilism is the method, and if Money Power can get people really worked up, they can pass more laws and gain even more control over societies and their economies. The more control, the easier it is to move toward one-world government, which is the ultimate goal.
The current system is rotten all the way through. Wall Street is part of the rottenness as are modern corporations, with their regulatory-induced gigantism. But the main problem is the endless price-fixing of currency. The powers-that-be will do ANYTHING to ensure that people don't concentrate on this one issue. That's why you'll see Occupy Wall Street's aggression increasingly turned toward Wall Street, the NYSE, industry bankers, multinational corporations, etc.
It's mainstream media's role to be an enabler of this sort of meme. Today, the Los Angeles Times went with the headline, "The new Populists?" – and this is theme that the great banking families badly want to spread around the Western world. Occupy Wall Street is a tool to help with this contagion, one which is now to be spread by the media and by the resources of increasing union support.
Conclusion: The idea, obviously, is to counteract the libertarian Tea Party movement (a genuine grass-roots, Internet-based phenomenon) and return the conversation to "greater social and economic justice" based on the use of "democratic" and "governmental" recipes for legislative redress. They didn't work in the 1930s and they won't work now. But you won't hear that from the mainstream press.
Posted by Bischoff on 10/07/11 11:50 AM
PROVE IT... ??? What do you want... ??? Scientific proof... ???
I am not involved in the Occupy Wall Street movement, therefore I have no first hand proof. Also, I do not plan to become an investigative reporter in order to uncover what I assert.
However, I have philosophical proof rendered to me by history and human nature.
This OWS movement is the Progressive Movement of the early 1900s which was exploited by central bankers and real estate speculators to get the 16th and 17th Amendment ratified.
The OWS movement is the same movement which constituted the National Worker/Union Movement in the 1930s which helped usher in FDR's socialistic the "New Deal" and Fed central banking.
The OWS movement is promoted by the same real estate speculators and central bankers who were behind the other two movements. It was real estate speculators and central bankers who put Obama into the presidency. They are going to use him and this OWS movement to pervert what is left of our constitutional goverment to establish an oligarchy.
I know those power hungry politicians, real estate speculators and central bankers like I know "every square inch of my glorious, naked body".
You question my judgement regarding the people that make up the OWS movement in saying that, "These people can always be counted upon to congregate and spew their myriad ideas to bring about "change", as long as there is food, a place to crash and some "free" sex."
I saw the OWS demonstrators on TV. They were the exact same people I saw in 1968 at Berkeley's "People's Park" rallies when I was employed in a riot control role. You can take it from me, they are the same people. They can be counted upon to behave in the manner as I claim.
In any case, why don't you just wait and let time prove me right... ??? Will you contact me then to say that you have sufficient proof... ???
Posted by John Danforth on 10/06/11 08:35 PM
This may be a depressurization operation. To dissipate energy in useless, futile action. To get people to spend themselves for nothing, go home discouraged, and thereafter be quiet about their lot in life.
That is what the Glenn Beck thing was. Hyped for months. Thousands upon thousands of Tea Partiers showed up from across the nation, intending to make a statement to Washington. And when they got there, they got ... . preached at! Hilarious! I never saw so many crestfallen people in my life! That let most of the air out of the Tea Party. Hopefully it was a valuable lesson to Followers. Apparently the youngsters missed the joke, because now it looks like maybe the same thing is being done to them. Show up and ... It's a protest! What are we protesting? Whatever you want! Oh. "We'll show them, we'll make a statement!" "What is the statement?" "Whatever you want!" Oh.
Hope this wasn't a spoiler ...
Posted by John Danforth on 10/06/11 08:24 PM
They were cutting and pasting the same message in repeatedly in order to keep their post at the top. And the post was a complaint about the forum software and lack of control.
I wonder how that kind of behavior would be treated anywhere else.
Posted by John Danforth on 10/06/11 08:22 PM
Thanks for clearing that up, Ingo.
Originally you had claimed that the "Occupy Wall Street" movement is the brain child of the real estate interests and the mega bankers.
I simply hadn't seen any evidence of that.
"These people can always be counted upon to congregate and spew their myriad ideas to bring about "change", as long as there is food, a place to crash and some "free" sex."
Posted by EntropyAnn on 10/06/11 07:30 PM
Note to the Editor's Note: As someone that used to frequent the various *chan boards, from what I've heard of this supposed "Inner Anonymous", it appears to mostly be led by people originating from somewhere else.
Previously, hacktivists related that would frequent their IRC rooms would be mostly uninspired and just "in it for the lulz", though as of the Chanology operation, users with a different disposition are reported as having basically taken the lead on these recent operations.
It's my opinion that while there are likely numerous true believers picking up the slack with some of the technical requirements, there remains a core of Agent Provocateurs that are directing the current conversation and resulting action.
Reply from The Daily Bell
Thanks. See tomorrow's lead article ...
Posted by Molly56 on 10/06/11 06:34 PM
There's something really fishy about Obamacare--it's so blatently unconstitutional, yet it just doesn't die... This is a quote from a Ron Paul forum back in 2008:
Click to view link(Obama-LOVES-it)
A paste from the post:
"Daschle proposes creating a Federal Health Board, similar to the Federal Reserve System, whose structure, functions and enforcement capability would be largely insulated from the politics and passion of the moment, in addition to a merging of employers' plans, Medicaid and Medicare with an expanded FEHBP (Federal Employee Health Benefits Program) that would cover everyone."
Was there a plan to create a government healthcare system that mirrored the creation of the "new" Federal Reserve (as Bischoff refers to it] and make the citizen-mandated participation similar to our mandated participation in Social Security? I did not think this up, but can't find the original person who had the idea.
Would that explain why a "single payer" system would appeal to a "commie", as Sogwood asks?
Posted by concernedforfreedoms on 10/06/11 05:43 PM
And of course, everything is tied in with Soros & the elites. Jones is the puppet.
Reply from The Daily Bell
These videos are something else.
Posted by concernedforfreedoms on 10/06/11 04:58 PM
The train indeed has left the station. October 15th may be a day for the books. Communist (& ex-Green Czar)Van Jones is at the helm through MoveOn, Rebuild the American Dream, Center for American Progress and the worst of all the Kasama Project.
Global mass protests 15th October 2011
Click to view link
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Kasama Project reading material: Click to view link
I am truly concerned for our freedoms.
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Thanks for the links.
Posted by Dilence Sogwood on 10/06/11 04:56 PM
Also if Anonymous is so concerned with the mainstream media, then why is the msm over hyping these protests.
There were only 40 people in DC yesterday.
Posted by Dilence Sogwood on 10/06/11 04:53 PM
The demands are odd. Why would universal health care need to be single payer. As long as you are paid for, what does a commie care? A trillion dollars in infrastructure spending? Why is this so important, and will it be built with trucks running on fossil fuels (inconsistent with demand 11). ... And why the open boarders - that demand is short and unexplained - odd
Posted by Dilence Sogwood on 10/06/11 04:47 PM
"Anonymous" has a Youtube video out where they say that in this "Age of the Internet" the real truth will be heard. They don't exactly mention the Guttenberg Press, but they are definitely co-opting the DB message into a false dualism. People will be confused. DB - I highly recommend you watch the video. You will have a lot to say about it.
Posted by Levantine on 10/06/11 04:41 PM
I took that chance, and while browsing came across this:
"Interesting- Several of My Postings From Yesterday Have Been Removed" Click to view link
Let's hope this will remain a rare occurrence.
Posted by Bischoff on 10/06/11 03:02 PM
I do not disagree with you as regards the tea party. NOT AT ALL.
I disagree with you to describe the "Occupy Wall Street" movement as a movement which could be compared to the tea party.
I support the ideas of the tea party, and I participate in local tea party activities. I am familiar with the ideas people within the BAP tea party hold. They are those of smaller government, reform of the monetary system, strengthening of national defense and restoring constitutional goverment. Tea party members in general have no problem defining their goals.
In contrast stands the "Occupy Wall Street" movement made up of the usual miscontents, anarchists, complainants of any of a thousands things. These people can always be counted upon to congregate and spew their myriad ideas to bring about "change", as long as there is food, a place to crash and some "free" sex.
The Occupy Wall Street movement is coopted and supported by the Wall Street power elite, which secretly delights in its name. The Mass Media, totally controlled by the power elite, tries to sell the Occupy Wall Street movement as a movement which fights for the interests of the average person, when in fact that movement singularly represents the interests of the power elite which plans to use it to extract favorable legislation.
While the Occupy Wall Street movement is a vehicle of the power elite to "rob the people of their freedom", the Tea Party movement is a vehicle "created by the people to preserve their freedom".
This is the difference between the two movements which needed to be pointed out. Therefore, my comments... ...
Reply from The Daily Bell
Wow, someone's on a roll today.
Posted by spekulatn on 10/06/11 02:42 PM
This "protest" smells funny. The organizers will show their hand in due course and the internet will expose them all. Thanks DB and the many smart and awakened commenters here for keeping score.
Posted by John Danforth on 10/06/11 02:23 PM
I can confirm that the list(s) of demands are proposals by individuals, posted on the website as proposals. They have scrolled down into the memory hole, but not before being pretty much scuttled by most of the respondents.
Posted by John Danforth on 10/06/11 02:20 PM
It is an interesting theory and I won't argue that the mob is being used in ways they do not understand.
But your assertion is exactly the same as those leveled at the Tea Party, with charges of 'astro-turf', meaning financed and directed from somewhere. Well, I wish that were true. I never got a dime for what I did, and I helped start it.
Since you make this assertion, I say,
Posted by gamma ray on 10/06/11 01:21 PM
Interesting that Alex Jones had Dr. Webster Tarpley recently on his show for an interview and Tarpley reported that his intel from observers at the OWS protest site was that the movement was genuine anti-NWO and anti-central banking, however, it was very clear that aggressive and highly coordinated attempts were underway to co-opt the movement.
Making matters more confusing, its seems several lists of demands or statements portrayed as official OWS statements, were, in fact, the opinions of individual participants. This issue was examined by the well respected writer of The George Washington blog.
Getting back to Jones, it is discouraging to learn that he has made statements slandering or distorting the original intent of the OWS movement. Now Jones intends to run his own End The Fed rallies? This is ironic given how reluctant he was to give the early OWS protests any coverage on his websites despite much urging by his readers. When he finally capitulated and covered OWS his editors censored commentary.
While hesitating to cover OWS, Jones didn't have a problem with frequent coverage of Wikileaks despite increasingly clear evidence that Assange was a globalist agent of disinformation. This went on for a quite awhile in the face of overwhelming evidence presented by Webster Tarpley and the excellent research done by others.
I don't know if Jones has a blind spot or some agenda at odds with his stated mission. Nonetheless, none of us should be dismissive of what the grassroots of the OWS movement actually reveals about a growing awakening by the public of how the world really works and what entities control our government.
Posted by 4irw4y on 10/06/11 01:09 PM
Agree somewhere with your analysis, DB (-; think that some Soros thorn all anus hair away waiting, probably expected the WallS Occupation some earlier, hehe, some technical problems. Poor Greece... voe on your newspapers for their Big Greek Voting.
OK, would you please provide yourself with a King Sound protection for your ears... because those gentlemen are gonna swear as gentlemen do, and it's a heavy sound. POTUS is onstage, on air, right in time, with his - OWN???// strong-a-stick dollar. What level of colonial/gulag management shall it require for _any_ n3x7 president nominee to balance through the market stable and going? Or - is there Gold in Fort Noxz and those shadows above her are hawks of w*r?
Damn Shakespeare. Left us with questions.
Posted by Bischoff on 10/06/11 12:53 PM
I disagree. The "Occupy Wall Street" movement is the brain child of the real estate interests and the mega bankers who have persued a consolidation of power in this country for two hundred years.
Posted by Bischoff on 10/06/11 12:48 PM
The real estate interests and the mega bankers, coalescing their interests after the Civil War, were responsible for the finally biggest depression in 1907.
Stirring up and supporting a Progressive Movement made up of recently arrived, disaffected immigrants in the early 1900s, the real estate interests and mega bankers were able to have the 16th Amendment and 17th Amendment added to the U.S. Constitution. This eliminated the voice of the states from the U.S. Congress.
The violation the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 caused the collapse of the stock market in 1929, and it ushered in the second great depression.
To secure their interests, real estate sector and mega bankers used the nationalistic socialistic worker movement in the 1930s to steal the savings of the American people and to consolidate power in the federal government by establishing a central bank through the Banking Act of 1935.
Monetizing government debt via a central bank is a "ponzi scheme" which in the long will blow up the monetary system. The compound interest on the debt monetized will eventually send indebtedness skyward. We have arrived at that point in 2008.
Now, the members of "Occupy Wall Street" movement are the useful idiots which are manipulated by real estate interests and mega bankers to clamor for the elimination of "capitalism". Capitalism, as an economic system was made possible through the U.S. Constitution.
The monies and support given to the "Occupy Wall Street" demonstrators comes from real estate interests and mega bankers. The Mass Media, owned by them, try to persuade us that everything will be better without capitalism. In other words, real estate interests and mega bankers want us to agree to scrap the U.S. Constitution and to live under their oligarchy guided by their superior knowledge of what is good for us.
The sad part is that many people buy into this idiocy... ..
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This very good! Thanks.